Humanitarian crisis' in NHS hospitals, warns Red Cross
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chrismpw
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It's a disgrace and a clearly orchestrated prelude to privatisation. This government would be unelectable in any sane society.
However, we have compliant voters fed a diet of celebrity obsession by the media to distract them. The same media who programme us that the alternative is unelectable. The average voter will forget about all this with a giveaway budget just before the next election. Again.
However, we have compliant voters fed a diet of celebrity obsession by the media to distract them. The same media who programme us that the alternative is unelectable. The average voter will forget about all this with a giveaway budget just before the next election. Again.
rascal
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I am tempted to stand at the next general election, there's a local pub here that does well publicised hustings, it's time my local Tory MP is shown up.
That's tin foil hat stuff. The NHS has a number of enormous challenges ahead in the coming years, and politicising it in this kind of way does no one any favours. Indeed, I'd argue that using it as a political football has contributed to our current situation, as it's almost forced politicians to swing the axe disproportionately on social care funding because it isn't as politically dangerous as cutting funding in the NHS.
rascal
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I think we all know Bruce that the only ones playing politics with the NHS are the Tories. They have been since day one. The rest of us just want a well functioning system.
The NHS is a political institution, and it doesn't help it. I do a lot of work in the NHS and it has a lot of challenges, and this 'route to privatisation' stuff doesn't help.
rascal
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I know you're a intelligent chap, Bruce. So when a bloke who wrote about destroying the NHS so that private interests can profit is then made Health Secretary, and has been acting contrary to the best interests of NHS since assuming his position, you will no doubt see a problem.
Jeremy Hunt has a pretty small influence though to be fair. He writes the cheques but most of the direction is delivered by Simon Stevens (in England)
chrismpw
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The "tin foil hat" dismissal. Not a powerful argument against the reality that our media really does control how and what a significant number of people think. A significant enough number to get democratic results.
Everything in the public sector is a political football, and everything suffers because of it. Having worked in education for nigh on 30 years I'm well aware of the damage done by being used as political advertising.
I sometimes get the impression that our politicians wish they were in the US where their "I'm alright jack" and "let only the wealthy survive" attitudes would be vote winners.
Sorry Bruce, but as much as I love the theory behind the NHS, in practice right now it is shocking. I'm experiencing it first hand as we speak - incredibly talented staff, operating in one of the most fundamentally flawed and mismanaged system I've seen.
There's a long history of very large organisations struggling to change and adapt. Things have changed enormously in the world since the NHS was born in the 40s and the NHS is so large that it struggles to really change quickly.
I can see a lot of things happening to be honest, not least a tremendous rise in support for self-managing our care. A lot of the tools to do this exist, but as with so much in the NHS, the challenge is joining this up. I was speaking only yesterday to the head of research at Great Ormond Street and the potential is really tremendous.
I can see the age of the general hospital nearing an end, with smaller, specialised facilities that can do what they do more efficiently because that's all they do.
I can see a time where the NHS moves from the state pays AND provides everything towards a time where the state pays for everything but provision is opened up, and that will be born out of necessity rather than ideology. There's a concept called open innovation that is practiced by pretty much every kind of company these days, and it accepts that you don't have all the answers yourself, and work with those that do. There is an enormous amount of innovation happening in health at the moment. In many ways it's a golden age, and the NHS has tremendous difficulty integrating it. Ask any health entrepreneur what it's like dealing with the NHS and it's akin to pulling teeth. That's largely because the NHS has to provide rather than just pay. If they paid the bill, regulated quality and got out of the way...
...7 day NHS is all about cutting cost and nothing to do with service offering. My daughter is a senior registrar, her salary has been decimated but she continues to work unbelievably long hours. Cutting costs results in poorer service, it's not difficult to work that out.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
It takes 7 years to train a Dr / GP, those passing out now are the last from the previous Labour Govt. The drop off since that period is quite remarkable when you see the figures, were heading for a monumental shortage of Drs in the next few years.
It takes 7 years to train a Dr / GP, those passing out now are the last from the previous Labour Govt. The drop off since that period is quite remarkable when you see the figures, were heading for a monumental shortage of Drs in the next few years.
Chronic underfunding has brought about this current situation...just as it did in the late 1980s.
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