HS2 High Speed Rail Link.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...h-speed-rail-could-hit-council-taxpayers.html

The prospect of cities having to make a contribution was buried in the small print of one of the documents produced by the Department for Transport last week.

It had been thought the £32.7 billion needed to build the 351-mile network from London to Birmingham, Leeds and Manchester would be funded by central government.

But the Command Paper setting out the project made clear that a contribution will be expected from “parties who would benefit directly from opportunities and development” of HS2.

Businesses and developers could also be expected to contribute financially under Government plans.

“It is fair and right that they work collaboratively with the Government on options to support the project financially. Depending on specific circumstances, this might involve the commitment of funds,” the paper adds.

The prospect of council taxpayers in some parts of the country horrified Martin Tett, the Tory leader of Buckinghamshire, who has spearheaded council opposition to the Government’s flagship scheme.
"I suspect a number of my colleagues will be surprised to learn that, buried deep within the proposal, the Department for Transport expects them and their Council Tax payers to help fund the £33bn cost of HS2.
“For many this will be a 'double whammy' as both Income and Council Tax payers,” he said.
The cities most likely to be asked to make a contribution are those with high speed stations, such as Manchester, Leeds, Nottingham, Sheffield and Derby.
Paul Bayliss, leader of Derby City Council, acknowledged it was likely to have to find some money to support the project.
“We accept that we have to potentially invest in development of HS2 and the cost of this comes from all tax sources. Any funding contribution will be from the Council’s capital programme
“If the cost of the investment means we have a £145 million return and 1000s of jobs it’s a good use of resources no matter what the source.
Nottingham City Council’s Portfolio Holder for Transport and Planning, Councillor Jane Urquhart, added: "Our understanding is that the main costs of HS2 will be met by the Government but that local contributions would be considered.
“In our case through the Local Enterprise Partnership, to fund supporting infrastructure such as a link from Nottingham city centre to the HS2 station at Toton.”
However Sir Richard Leese, Leader of Manchester City Council, seemed to be unaware that his taxpayers could also be expected to make a contribution.
“The only part of the HS2 scheme that will be subject to local contributions is the proposed station at Manchester Airport.
“No decision has been made on what form these contributions will take, but the Greater Manchester Combined Authority – not just Manchester – will bring forward a funding package when the picture is more clear."
A spokesman for the Department for Transport said local contributions would depend on local circumstances.
“This will be a collaborative approach and the Government is committed to securing a fair deal for the taxpayer, the cities and other interested parties.
“The timing of any local authority contributions to HS2 will depend on the local circumstances.”



​#HS2ChuffOff #BeAHSED

 

Following the BBC report that a property in Buckinghamshire located 450 metres from the proposed track route was valued as £0 by The Woolwich and consequently refused a mortgage, the industry is calling for swift reassurance of the support government will offer those who live in close proximity to the train line.
Bernard Clarke, spokesman for the Council of Mortgage Lenders, said: “We need the publication of the government’s compensation plans to reassure local housing markets, homeowners and lenders so they can continue to function.”
There are two phases of the project under consultation: phase 1 which covers the London to Birmingham section of the track ended yesterday while phase 2, Birmingham to Manchester, will close on 29 April.
It was proposed that the government would buy any owner-occupied homes within 60 metres of the planned area offering those homeowners the unblighted value of their homes plus 10% up to the maximum of £47,000.
And a further 60 metres outside this zone, homeowners would be allowed to sell their properties to the government for the full unblighted value, which is the value before any detrimental effects.
But the range of this compensation zone has raised concerns among those who work in the mortgage industry as not being wide enough.
Eddie Goldsmith, senior partner at Goldsmith Williams, said: “The government’s automatic entitlement corridor of 120 metres affords insufficient protection to homeowners caught up in the HS2 route proposals.
“The response of The Woolwich to a recent mortgage application from a prospective purchaser of a property located some 450m off the route quoting a valuation of £0 shows up just how inadequate the government scheme is.”
 
Joking aside though, it does kinda baffle me. I mean we are living in an age when an increasing amount of communication is done virtually. Is it really so wise therefore to blow big chunks on getting people physically from a to b when they can video conference or something for a fraction of the price?
 

This is where Everton should be getting involved and getting them to build a direct transport link with stations to a new stadium for us, the reason we aren't progressing as a club is because of a lack of viable train service, this could be our ticket to success!
 
O how much will it knock off the journey for someone in Liverpool or further North than Wigan ? factoring in the time to get to pieland ? I'll bet that it wont be worth the journey to Wigan and extra expense, and by the time it's up and running there'll be a train thats faster then at the moment anyway.

If the West Coast Mainline can only be upgraded by shutting it down completely to lay new tracks etc then imo thats what they should do, the majority of people inconvenienced will be those who stand to benefit from it and use it.
 
O how much will it knock off the journey for someone in Liverpool or further North than Wigan ? factoring in the time to get to pieland ? I'll bet that it wont be worth the journey to Wigan and extra expense, and by the time it's up and running there'll be a train thats faster then at the moment anyway.

If the West Coast Mainline can only be upgraded by shutting it down completely to lay new tracks etc then imo thats what they should do, the majority of people inconvenienced will be those who stand to benefit from it and use it.

Sounds reasonable. So what pray tell do people use whilst that is going on? Because it'll be done and dusted over a weekend wont it?
 

Sounds reasonable. So what pray tell do people use whilst that is going on? Because it'll be done and dusted over a weekend wont it?

It's inconveniencing those that stand to benefit though, as opposed to those that don't, and will continue to do so even more once running.
The image conjured up where I am, as the trains head through at 220 is of the beginning of 'Oddworld-Abe's Odyssey.' Just been looking at the plan and superimposing where it goes in my mind, and it's not good. There's a new development res & ind. about to begin at the former colliery at Bickershaw and that will be cut off, it's about 1 1 1/2 miles to East Lancs Rd but there wont be access as the rd will close, the only way to it would be to go into Leigh Town Centre, which will cause congestion & is maybe 4 times the distance.
 
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