HS2 High Speed Rail Link.

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I am most definately a NIMBY, there you are so need to level that at me as I hold my hands up, but ask yourself if youy would be happy.

The plans were announced this week for Phase 2 of the High speed Rail Link.

Within a mile of me there will be train lines and the rolling stock yard, on what is currently Greenbelt land, sports fields, houses, nature reserve, ancient woodland & sites of scientific importance. Rather than use all of the existing west coast line it will divert directly through where I live before joining back on again and into Wigan.

Currently if I go out of our estate, take a right and within 150 yds there's a place where you see kids crossing the road with ponies, soon there'll be a train thundering through there at 225mph, you wont even be able to go that way any more cutting us off from our nearest town. A Town which ironically is the biggest in the country to not be served by rail as it's always been dismissed as too costly, well things wont change then either as there wont be a station for us, just the line and the depot. We can serve it, but it wont serve us.
The footy pitches where 200+kids will play on a weekend will be directly below the tracks.

The local country park which David Bellamy has been developing over the years (Wigan Flashes) will be below it.

Wigan council are building 2500 homes here as part of a gov led initiative, I don't fancy their chances of flogging them since this announcement.

Apparently estate agents all along the route have reported that as soon as it was announced viewings were cancelled and they reckon that it's going to be nigh on impossible to sell houses near it, there'll be negative equity all over the place.

There's a long fight ahead & I'm deffo not gonna be sitting on my jacksie doing nothing.

HS2ChuffOff will be my call sign and tag.
 

Property owners and local businesses will be moved and compensated. It is the price of progress and has as much to do with shady deals to cut the Scottish out (re: Referendum that is likely to vote independent) as it has with the creation of jobs and further allowing integration of trade into Europe. Business transit off the roads and less burden on airports is a good thing.
 

im all for it. it can go right thro my house if it wants. lets improve our country.
im fed up with this country not moving forward, im all for super prisons too. i dont mind if its built by me.
 
do we really need a train link that in 20yrs will take 20 minutes off a train journey? Can think of many many areas of this wasteland of a country that could better spend 20 billion pounds
 
Even it it's not built, people will be left in limbo for years or even decades about the futures of their communities. And for what?
 

do we really need a train link that in 20yrs will take 20 minutes off a train journey? Can think of many many areas of this wasteland of a country that could better spend 20 billion pounds

Its about connecting business and taking the burden off the roads. There simply isnt the capacity to open up the motorways to make american style freeways. The new bridge Runcorn-Widnes cant arrive soon enough. Parts of the Northwest are gridlocked as it is, with new developments by Peel holdings in Liverpool (amongst others) the interconnectivity to allow expanded developments to flourish isnt currently there. And I dont believe its a matter of trimming 20 minutes off a journey because HS2 line will remove a section of transit from the already overloaded rail network. Who gets to own and operate it should be the questions, how will it be funded and maintained. Which transport hubs will it visit and what expansion will have to be implemented at each respective site.
London cant support itself regarding homes now so some manner of ferrying people into the Capital to work and back in reasonable time (and comfort) is essential or it will implode. Long term business structure can perpetuate a healthy economy. It will make 2 visits to wembley for the FA cup a bit easier as well.
 
and then the wrong type of leaf on the rails will bring the country to its knees.
Folly and balderdash.
 

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