Hit or miss?

jaycee · October 16, 2015

Following the Cloughie thread and knowing what heights he reached with Derby and Forest got me thinking,would any of the other great managers of the past,Busby,Shankley,Stein etc be able to achieve the same results in the modern game?
We seen with Howie and Dalglish that the game has changed so would old style management still achieve success?

rascal · October 16, 2015

That's a good question

SpurtingLesbian · October 16, 2015

jaycee said:
We seen with Howie and Dalglish that the game has changed so would old style management still achieve success?

Neil Warnock says 'Sometimes'

arch stanton · October 17, 2015

SpurtingLesbian said:
Neil Warnock says 'Sometimes'

But Warnock is a weapons grade tit

degsy · October 17, 2015

jaycee said:
Following the Cloughie thread and knowing what heights he reached with Derby and Forest got me thinking,would any of the other great managers of the past,Busby,Shankley,Stein etc be able to achieve the same results in the modern game?
We seen with Howie and Dalglish that the game has changed so would old style management still achieve success?

New style is just old style recycled +money and luck.
If old style means playing to your strengths, passing and moving, defending, proper attitude and fitness, plus all the other basics.
Better players=successful coaches...usually.

not necessarily;
You have to have luck...oh yes you do, If it's all down to the cunning plan / system how do we explain Kendall Mk II & III. why didn't shankly get Huddersfield promoted.
you have to have some idea what you are doing ie what NOT to do.
and you have to be lucky
You have to be able to spot a player that will improve what you have and know when what you have isn't good enough
and you have to be lucky
now a days you need money as well.
never under estimate luck though

SpurtingLesbian · October 17, 2015

arch stanton said:
But Warnock is a weapons grade tit

He is a manager from a bygone age, all shout, no science.

I was answering the question asked

The Cowboy · October 17, 2015

degsy said:
New style is just old style recycled +money and luck.
If old style means playing to your strengths, passing and moving, defending, proper attitude and fitness, plus all the other basics.
Better players=successful coaches...usually.

not necessarily;
You have to have luck...oh yes you do, If it's all down to the cunning plan / system how do we explain Kendall Mk II & III. why didn't shankly get Huddersfield promoted.
you have to have some idea what you are doing ie what NOT to do.
and you have to be lucky
You have to be able to spot a player that will improve what you have and know when what you have isn't good enough
and you have to be lucky
now a days you need money as well.
never under estimate luck though

There's no such thing as luck.

Yid4life · October 17, 2015

Excellent programme. I am a bit in awe of the prosthetic cock.

degsy · October 17, 2015

The Cowboy said:
There's no such thing as luck.

what if I called it beneficial or adverse circumstances beyond your control?

49ers · October 17, 2015

The Cowboy said:
There's no such thing as luck.

I've heard that you can make your own, so that might help.

Luck,Nous,timing and these days most importantly Mula,wonga,spondulicks, cashola,readies... You get the idea.

jaycee · October 17, 2015

degsy said:
New style is just old style recycled +money and luck.
If old style means playing to your strengths, passing and moving, defending, proper attitude and fitness, plus all the other basics.
Better players=successful coaches...usually.

not necessarily;
You have to have luck...oh yes you do, If it's all down to the cunning plan / system how do we explain Kendall Mk II & III. why didn't shankly get Huddersfield promoted.
you have to have some idea what you are doing ie what NOT to do.
and you have to be lucky
You have to be able to spot a player that will improve what you have and know when what you have isn't good enough
and you have to be lucky
now a days you need money as well.
never under estimate luck though

Though I agree with what your saying,I was thinking more along the lines of man management style,would Cloughs young man do as I order style still work in the present era of pampered millionaire footballers

degsy · October 17, 2015

jaycee said:
Though I agree with what your saying,I was thinking more along the lines of man management style,would Cloughs young man do as I order style still work in the present era of pampered millionaire footballers

Worked for SAF