Hip Hop and Racism

[navidson]

I've been enjoying the latest Weeknd album recently. It's a great modern pop album that uses a lot of 80's techniques that I used to love as a kid. It also has a couple of guest spots from rappers which, IMO, are absolute garbage.

I mentioned this on another forum (there are other forums aside from GOT I hear you cry!) - and it spiralled into a conversation where I admitted to not being a fan of hip hop music, mainly due to my dislike about the braggadocio of the genre (the whole fascination about how many women you've slept with or how much money you have is vulgar and boring to me I suppose).

I was then basically accused of being racist because of this. I stated that i'd listened to some of the 'flagship' releases of the genre (To Pimp A Butterfly, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy etc) and didn't like them. It seems that because Hip Hop/Rap music is probably the most popular genre of current times, for somebody to dislike the vast majority of the genre there must be a deeper reasoning behind it - or at least that was the impression I was given from other posters on that site.

How many rappers/hip hop fans like Heavy Metal? Is it racist of them to discount a genre consisting largely of white males?

Should I feel guilty that I don't like Hip Hop music?

 

[Prevenger17]

Should I feel guilty that I don't like Hip Hop music?

Yes, and you're a grotesquely ugly freak

 

[ilikecheese]

How on Earth would someone come to that conclusion?

I mean I don't even recognize Country music as a genre so does that mean I hate white people?

 

[navidson]

Yes, and you're a grotesquely ugly freak

Crikey - Is that a line from the new Tyler the Creator album?

 

[Prevenger17]

I mean I don't even recognize Country music as a genre so does that mean I hate white people?

I am very racist against people who like country music

 

[Prevenger17]

Crikey - Is that a line from the new Tyler the Creator album?

The Day Today quote, I wheel it out from time to time

 

[Blue 1]

It seems to me like you're dismissing the entire genre without much exploration of or understanding of it, but it's up to you what you like.

Try this on:




Also, quite a bit of old school heavy metal bangs on about how many women they've laid etc.

I love hip hop, and I like a fair old bit of metal, too.

 

[Bungle]

I mentioned this on another forum (there are other forums aside from GOT I hear you cry!) - and it spiralled into a conversation where I admitted to not being a fan of hip hop music, mainly due to my dislike about the braggadocio of the genre (the whole fascination about how many women you've slept with or how much money you have is vulgar and boring to me I suppose).

I was then basically accused of being racist because of this. I stated that i'd listened to some of the 'flagship' releases of the genre (To Pimp A Butterfly, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy etc) and didn't like them. It seems that because Hip Hop/Rap music is probably the most popular genre of current times, for somebody to dislike the vast majority of the genre there must be a deeper reasoning behind it - or at least that was the impression I was given from other posters on that site.

How many rappers/hip hop fans like Heavy Metal? Is it racist of them to discount a genre consisting largely of white males?

Should I feel guilty that I don't like Hip Hop music?

2 (1 if we can't count family), and I have £32.58 in my current account.

 

[navidson]

2 (1 if we can't count family), and I have £32.58 in my current account.

Is that a line from the new Tyler the Creator album?

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Should I feel guilty that I don't like Hip Hop music?

Everyone loves a bit of sugarhill gang.
Surely.

 

[COYBL25]

I've been enjoying the latest Weeknd album recently. It's a great modern pop album that uses a lot of 80's techniques that I used to love as a kid. It also has a couple of guest spots from rappers which, IMO, are absolute garbage.

I mentioned this on another forum (there are other forums aside from GOT I hear you cry!) - and it spiralled into a conversation where I admitted to not being a fan of hip hop music, mainly due to my dislike about the braggadocio of the genre (the whole fascination about how many women you've slept with or how much money you have is vulgar and boring to me I suppose).

I was then basically accused of being racist because of this. I stated that i'd listened to some of the 'flagship' releases of the genre (To Pimp A Butterfly, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy etc) and didn't like them. It seems that because Hip Hop/Rap music is probably the most popular genre of current times, for somebody to dislike the vast majority of the genre there must be a deeper reasoning behind it - or at least that was the impression I was given from other posters on that site.

How many rappers/hip hop fans like Heavy Metal? Is it racist of them to discount a genre consisting largely of white males?

Should I feel guilty that I don't like Hip Hop music?

Have you tried listening to the mellower stuff, like De la Soul, PM Dawn and even Run DMC ?

It’s not all about pimps and ho’s.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Have you tried listening to the mellower stuff, like De la Soul, PM Dawn and even Run DMC ?

3 good un's them.

 

[longers]

I've been enjoying the latest Weeknd album recently. It's a great modern pop album that uses a lot of 80's techniques that I used to love as a kid. It also has a couple of guest spots from rappers which, IMO, are absolute garbage.

I mentioned this on another forum (there are other forums aside from GOT I hear you cry!) - and it spiralled into a conversation where I admitted to not being a fan of hip hop music, mainly due to my dislike about the braggadocio of the genre (the whole fascination about how many women you've slept with or how much money you have is vulgar and boring to me I suppose).

I was then basically accused of being racist because of this. I stated that i'd listened to some of the 'flagship' releases of the genre (To Pimp A Butterfly, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy etc) and didn't like them. It seems that because Hip Hop/Rap music is probably the most popular genre of current times, for somebody to dislike the vast majority of the genre there must be a deeper reasoning behind it - or at least that was the impression I was given from other posters on that site.

How many rappers/hip hop fans like Heavy Metal? Is it racist of them to discount a genre consisting largely of white males?

Should I feel guilty that I don't like Hip Hop music?

Hip Hop is a massively diverse genre, its not all rapping about money and hoes.

Give these a listen, lots of melodic hip hop with traditional instrumentation and less generic lyrics








Final one, you may not like the actual music (the beat is crap and samey) but the quality of lyrics and delivery is amazing, lyrically its far more interesting than music from most other genres. Id say its the polar opposite of what you describe.





Also lots of classic rock is about sex and sleeping with women etc as well, its hardly unique to hip hop. Metal has a fascination with death etc which to me is far more odd than bragging about sexual exploits and money.

 

[wm02]

Have you tried listening to the mellower stuff, like De la Soul, PM Dawn and even Run DMC ?

It’s not all about pimps and ho’s.

Great list. I’d add Tribe Called Quest

 

[malcson]

It seems to me like you're dismissing the entire genre without much exploration of or understanding of it, but it's up to you what you like.

Try this on:




Also, quite a bit of old school heavy metal bangs on about how many women they've laid etc.

I love hip hop, and I like a fair old bit of metal, too.

I think this is why someone who will have responded that way. Misogyny certainly features in a fair amount of rap content but rappers put out some of the most political and socially aware content in the whole music industry.

I am no fan of rap but my son who is has educated me that is not as one dimensional as I previously thought.