Have we lost our passion?

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Have we lost our passion as a football club?


I remember going back to when I first started following Everton properly as a kid. We had just stayed up through a heroic 2-0 turnaround against Wimbledon on the last day of the season. My first game was Forest at home on a weeknight, we lost 2-0, but just seeing my team made me happy. Not long after that came my first Derby, I never realised then how bad the team was, or understood the notion of how bad mike walker was. So hearing Joe Royle was manager went straight over my head at the time. What I do remember, was a Scotsman called Duncan Ferguson jump higher than any Liverpool player and bury a header into the Gwladys Street end, and subsequently the whole crowd make the ground shake afterwards. Fast forward 22 years later and I witnessed an Everton team turn up to Anfield and proceed to go through the motions, to not only lose but not even care. What had changed? You could pick out many reasons as to why but one thing that was not on show that night was pride or passion for the shirt, which is what I can see missing from the club.

The past 15 years have been long for us all, no success, no trophies and nothing really to boast about. However could we have lost that passion we once had, the same passion that kept us up every year, that won us derbies by itself and made Goodison such a hard place to come and play? Looking at the starting 11 today and you question who cares in that team? Our captain is quiet, the players never fight for the badge on their shirt, and we seem to accept things when they go wrong. Who do you blame for that? Moyes and his negative outlook? Martinez losing the backing of the team? Do you blame us, the fans? When was the last time we genuinely went out onto the pitch and fought for 90 minutes every week? Or when the team actually cared after losing? Perhaps this is what the problem is, why we aren’t successful, why we have bottled every big chance we have got over the past 15 years.

Us fans are very much part of this as well. Goodison sometimes can be quiet as a church, I can’t remember the last time we finished singing Grand Old Team, in fact we have been content for 2 years now to pay our money and not say a word until customary boos on half time. Is this lack of passion now rubbing off on us? We are the best fans in the world when we want to be, yet we seem so apathetic now, we have stopped really expecting us to be the Everton of old and have settled for the Everton of today? No different to anyone else in the league? There is always the discussion of whether Cahill was a club legend, or Ferguson, but at least they cared for the club. You knew when they went out on the pitch they would run through brick walls for us, would fight for every ball for us, and in one case literally wear the club on their sleeve for us. Do any of the players we have now carry that same passion? Do any of them care losing when they go back to their big houses and rich lives, do they even need to care?

You could argue this is all product of the new money club culture that has really taken over. Our former owner has not really helped things and Moyes sucked a lot of enthusiasm out of the club by the end of his tenure, but are we lacking our Fergusons, our Cahill’s, our Watson’s? I remember not too long ago, Suarez the year before had deliberately injured Mirallas to get him off the pitch; he escaped with just a booking. We were all fuming, it was the same old story again, which cost us going for the win. Then 12 months later, the ball has bounced up on the half way line, bit of a nothing ball, then BANG! Mirallas had gone in on Suarez, a bit of revenge for last year. That actually made me over the moon to see because it was the first time in a derby in my memory that any one of our players shown that passion, to care about that game, and for the club. Perhaps, just perhaps, we need to start on December 19th to get that passion back, to fight on the pitch and turn this around because otherwise, if the passion and pride go away, then so does the spark that really made us Everton.
 

I don't think we have no. Well I have not.

I have however what I think are realistic expectations. Would be nice if these were exceeded but if not that's ok right now.

If some people/players etc... have lost their passions, and I don't believe it has, then it needs regaining a long time before 19th December. It needs to be there now.
 

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I have to say I went to my first game of the season against West Ham and I was shouting as I always do, having a go at their players for diving and the ref for falling for it, getting excited and shouting when we went through on goal etc. However, nobody else around me was saying a word, and it did feel a bit weird. Modern football supporters are a bit like a theatre crowd these days I think, waiting to be entertained.
 

Have we lost our passion as a football club?


I remember going back to when I first started following Everton properly as a kid. We had just stayed up through a heroic 2-0 turnaround against Wimbledon on the last day of the season. My first game was Forest at home on a weeknight, we lost 2-0, but just seeing my team made me happy. Not long after that came my first Derby, I never realised then how bad the team was, or understood the notion of how bad mike walker was. So hearing Joe Royle was manager went straight over my head at the time. What I do remember, was a Scotsman called Duncan Ferguson jump higher than any Liverpool player and bury a header into the Gwladys Street end, and subsequently the whole crowd make the ground shake afterwards. Fast forward 22 years later and I witnessed an Everton team turn up to Anfield and proceed to go through the motions, to not only lose but not even care. What had changed? You could pick out many reasons as to why but one thing that was not on show that night was pride or passion for the shirt, which is what I can see missing from the club.

The past 15 years have been long for us all, no success, no trophies and nothing really to boast about. However could we have lost that passion we once had, the same passion that kept us up every year, that won us derbies by itself and made Goodison such a hard place to come and play? Looking at the starting 11 today and you question who cares in that team? Our captain is quiet, the players never fight for the badge on their shirt, and we seem to accept things when they go wrong. Who do you blame for that? Moyes and his negative outlook? Martinez losing the backing of the team? Do you blame us, the fans? When was the last time we genuinely went out onto the pitch and fought for 90 minutes every week? Or when the team actually cared after losing? Perhaps this is what the problem is, why we aren’t successful, why we have bottled every big chance we have got over the past 15 years.

Us fans are very much part of this as well. Goodison sometimes can be quiet as a church, I can’t remember the last time we finished singing Grand Old Team, in fact we have been content for 2 years now to pay our money and not say a word until customary boos on half time. Is this lack of passion now rubbing off on us? We are the best fans in the world when we want to be, yet we seem so apathetic now, we have stopped really expecting us to be the Everton of old and have settled for the Everton of today? No different to anyone else in the league? There is always the discussion of whether Cahill was a club legend, or Ferguson, but at least they cared for the club. You knew when they went out on the pitch they would run through brick walls for us, would fight for every ball for us, and in one case literally wear the club on their sleeve for us. Do any of the players we have now carry that same passion? Do any of them care losing when they go back to their big houses and rich lives, do they even need to care?

You could argue this is all product of the new money club culture that has really taken over. Our former owner has not really helped things and Moyes sucked a lot of enthusiasm out of the club by the end of his tenure, but are we lacking our Fergusons, our Cahill’s, our Watson’s? I remember not too long ago, Suarez the year before had deliberately injured Mirallas to get him off the pitch; he escaped with just a booking. We were all fuming, it was the same old story again, which cost us going for the win. Then 12 months later, the ball has bounced up on the half way line, bit of a nothing ball, then BANG! Mirallas had gone in on Suarez, a bit of revenge for last year. That actually made me over the moon to see because it was the first time in a derby in my memory that any one of our players shown that passion, to care about that game, and for the club. Perhaps, just perhaps, we need to start on December 19th to get that passion back, to fight on the pitch and turn this around because otherwise, if the passion and pride go away, then so does the spark that really made us Everton.
We've all just got used to being crap really.
 
Its difficult to explain,yes we havent been very good for years,but there was always a feeling we could get back to the top,nowdays chances are slim with the big clubs vastly outspending and taking any new talent available,the crowds have changed from mainly working class lads ketting off steam to more theatre like audience who fall for the "best league " tag and want to be entertained and not wanting the view blocked by some rowdy elements,most players just turn up to get paid even local lads dont seem to have the passion of players from years ago,maybe because they have become to distant from the fans,on its day Goodison can be as intimidating as any stadium but it needs something to spark that fire
 
It sounds as though you're about the same age as I am, which fits with my belief that most people reach a point where they can't justify investing as much emotion into the fortunes of distant millionaires as they did when life was simpler.

I imagine that the younger end of the fan base is still as passionate as ever, and that the rest of us will just go up and down depending on whether or not it feels like there's something to get behind.

I also think that the team developed into a thoroughly unlikeable group during Martinez's reign, which is also a turn off.
 

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