GOT Country Discussion: England

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Is England even a country.

*casts out

Good question. I don't believe it is. I heard a few years ago the you need to tick nine boxes to qualify - don't ask - and England, and in fact none of the home countries do.

I know there's an 'us and them' rivalry in Britain, but I never feel that I'm somewhere 'different' when I enter Wales and Scotland.

I've been up to page four here and some of you are comparing and talking about the best places in America and Britain.

I've started planning a month long visit to Britain next July/August. - wrong thread, I think, but never mind - and the hardest part is where to leave out.

How do I fit London, Nottingham, Liverpool, Edinburgh and surrounds, York and surrounds, Wales, the Lake District, The Cotswolds, Kent and the whole of the South West - Somerset, Devon, Cornwall into a month? We've been to all of those and we want to go again.

That's not counting places we haven't been to that we'd like to, such as Dorset and East Anglia.

My point is that there are so many great places to go to in Britain.
 

This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Everton = England = Everton;

We don't have to big ourselves up... we just are...

We are born, not manufactured, we do not choose we are chosen, those who understand need no explination, those who don't understand don't matter...any foreigner who goes on about us not bragging are like City or newcastle supporters ( nuff said)

We Don't have to bang the drum on St Georges day

This sceptr'd Isle, this Goodison
 
Fair enough: my opinion is based on 8 years living in Hull, 1 year in Guildford, 6 years in London and the rest in Germany:


England pros:

- culture (the best music, humour, media, literature).
- Everton football club.
- the rather shallow friendliness you get when out and about is actually quite nice.
- english is the world's favourite language for a reason...it's the best.
- if ya know your history...big fan of the King Arthur era (tho' that's also Britain than just England).


England cons:

- people outside of the bigger and richer cities (or rather, of the lower classes) are sometimes not well educated, socially or culturally. Not their fault, obviously...but it's still an issue. Manifests itself in terms of poverty, crime, violence, discrimination and other social concerns. Class obsession is a real thing in England, and it causes more problems than it solves. My own family are working class, but the half-German nature of it probably helped us.
- it's far too London-centric. Germany has about 8 cities which could easily be the capital.
- bad attitude to drug consumption (alcohol included).
- the Nanny state doesn't help here.
- the rather shallow friendliness you get when out and about can get on your goat if you're not in the mood.



In terms of England vs Germany, I do prefer the latter...but it's a close-run thing.

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1. Goodison (if you're an Evertonian) otherwise very difficult there's actually so much to see and do. Will have a think and get back to you.

2. Anfield!!! I actually found Stone Henge to be a bit meh but that could be because I was too tight to pay to go in passed the fence and just looked from the road. Oh and Blackpool - overpriced and ****e!

3. Liverpool is a pretty good city and I'm a wool. Lots of history though I particularly like all the ****ty old man pubs round Lime Street.

4. Birmingham. Boring place although I've found the people to be pretty decent. Many other **** holes though probably too many to mention. I have resisted saying Wigan as that would just be me being biased.

I'm currently working in Korea and can't wait to get back and not just for Everton, Saints (Rugby League) and our Maude but just to walk into a **** hole pub order a pint and have a conversation without it being a strain. Oh and having to eat a thousand meals with it.

The Koreans who have been to the U.K rave about the British Museum and are really shocked when I say I have never been. I have explained that the only times I have been to London have been for Wembley, drinking and job interviews/work in that order. But I suppose it is pretty bad that a history grad has never been to the British Museum so I will pay a visit some day (maybe). I could make that number 1 if I had actually been hahaha.

Oh and beans are minging and have no place in any meal they are Satan's winnets!!!

wool AND hates beans why am I not surprised
 
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