Glory Hunters.......

[dead_soft]

That is true mate but that is not a phenomena that is exclusive to United

Contrary to popular belief we have a huge hardcore popular support ( As do Everton ) who have done and will follow the club through thick and thin. The atmosphere on the Stretford end and away this season has been the best it has been for years

p.s red café is not representative of Uniteds support bunch of JCLs on there

Most football fans are not hardcore. They are passive or casual observers - they want to see winners. This is not just amongst the more successful clubs, Everton's attendances drop when they are not winning or when the football is bad. If we got relegated I couldn't imagine the average attendance would be much over 30,000.

United have more of these because they have more fans and are successful. They also have more hardcore fans because they have more fans in general.

 

[dholliday]

Most football fans are not hardcore. They are passive or casual observers - they want to see winners. This is not just amongst the more successful clubs, Everton's attendances drop when they are not winning or when the football is bad. If we got relegated I couldn't imagine the average attendance would be much over 30,000.

United have more of these because they have more fans and are successful. They also have more hardcore fans because they have more fans in general.

During the bleak Walter Smith years, and during the odd blank Moyes season, our average attendance was about 5k lower than it is now.

But is it glory-hunting to be more inspired to watch the games when we're playing well?


*strokes chin*

 

[dead_soft]

During the bleak Walter Smith years, and during the odd blank Moyes season, our average attendance was about 5k lower than it is now.

But is it glory-hunting to be more inspired to watch the games when we're playing well?


*strokes chin*

However it is categorised, I don't really have a problem with it. 'Hardcore' football fans get very upset that other (most) people don't follow football in their way. They lay more claim to their way of support being right and more valid. I'm a season ticket holder (actually miss some home games, like today) who goes to some away games as well and cup games.

I'd be classed as a more hardcore fan that most but if someone wants to watch Everton on the TV, buy a scarf, then forget about the game after 90 minutes and call themselves a fan - fine - it doesn't impact on my support of the club.

 

[dholliday]

However it is categorised, I don't really have a problem with it. 'Hardcore' football fans get very upset that other (most) people don't follow football in their way. They lay more claim to their way of support being right and more valid. I'm a season ticket holder (actually miss some home games, like today) who goes to some away games as well and cup games.

I'd be classed as a more hardcore fan that most but if someone wants to watch Everton on the TV, buy a scarf, then forget about the game after 90 minutes and call themselves a fan - fine - it doesn't impact on my support of the club.

Aye...I also treat all Evertonians the same, regardless of whether they go to Goodison or not. And rightly so, for if we only treat the matchgoers as the 'real' fans, then we'd be limited to only 30,000 'real' fans at any one time, which is ridiculous.

Each to their own, innit.

 

[zirc]

That is true mate but that is not a phenomena that is exclusive to United

Contrary to popular belief we have a huge hardcore popular support ( As do Everton ) who have done and will follow the club through thick and thin. The atmosphere on the Stretford end and away this season has been the best it has been for years

p.s red café is not representative of Uniteds support bunch of JCLs on there

I agree mate I didn't mean to denigrate decent supporters. Obviously you have loads otherwise the FC United thing would never have happened.

 

[WA Toffee]

I don't believe you. Football club barrackers do not changed clubs.

They do though. Maybe not if they are diehard supporters, but there are those who do change. My mate used to go for North Melbourne, his wife supported Carlton. After about 3 years in WA they changed to Fremantle and now that they live in Qld they both support Brisbane. Hell, even my wife now goes for the Dockers instead of the Swans.

How many people do you think switched from Victory to being Heart supporters a couple of years back?

 

[Jeff Jones]

They do though. Maybe not if they are diehard supporters, but there are those who do change. My mate used to go for North Melbourne, his wife supported Carlton. After about 3 years in WA they changed to Fremantle and now that they live in Qld they both support Brisbane. Hell, even my wife now goes for the Dockers instead of the Swans.

How many people do you think switched from Victory to being Heart supporters a couple of years back?

There's the answer, right there.

 

[EvertonAndAustralia]

He'll be talking different sports - He'll be talking about the Sydney Swans and Fremantle Dockers AFL teams.

I don't have an issue with supporting multiple teams especially from different sports as I do the same.

I'm also in Australia and I was raised an Essendon supporter in the AFL - never really lived anyway near there but it was my Dad's team and I have no interest in supporting the Brisbane team where I live now. Even followed Essendon when we lived in the UK (used to be highlights etc on TV) - where I became an Evertonian in the early 80's when I was in school.

Don't have any interest in the A-League but I imagine those that are keen will have a local team and an OS team - a lot of those from a football following lineage will support a local team but also support the team the family supported before migration.

One of the forerunners to the A-League had crowd problems due to the fact that the teams in that comp were founded by different ethnic groups due to the influx of European migration from Europe just before and after WW2. Teams were named like Brunswick Juventus, St Melbourne Hellas, Melbourne Croatia (their badge incorporated the Croatian flag). This meant that most game going supporters were of the relevant ethnicity rather than purely the locale i.e. You could support the Melbourne based Greek team or the Melbourne-Italian team or the Melbourne-Croatian team.

Being able to support Everton as your local team is a special thing - Everton is one of the most successful teams in what is considered to be on of the best leagues if not the best league in the world. However those dispersed around the world will not have that luxury so will have some support for a more local side or teams in other sports that are more followed locally.

That however is not going to really be glory hunting - swapping teams for success.

If you for whatever reason pick a team in a particular league then you support them and keep supporting them no matter what happens over the years

This.

I'm a Brisbane Lions supporter in the AFL, and a Brisbane Roar supporter in the A-League. I've been supporting Everton before the A-League was formed and never followed the old NSL.

Did feel torn when Everton came here to play the Roar in the friendly but was wearing my Everton shirt and scarf. I'll stay up at ridiculous hours to watch Everton but even though I'm a Brisbane Roar STH I don't go really out of my way to watch all Roar away games.

My two main sporting loves are the Brisbane Lions and Everton.

 

[fatshark]

That's probably why most foreign fans are glory hunters really

Certainly doesn't apply to foreign Everton fans. If we were glory hunters do you really think we would have picked/stuck with us? One FA Cup and a Charity Shield since '87. No wonder I celebrate when we get a Manager of the Month award.

But yeah, certainly applies to the vast majority of foreign Manc fans. That post on Red Cafe might be tongue in cheek but pretty well sums up the vibe among their gazillions of fans here in S Africa.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

This.

I'm a Brisbane Lions supporter in the AFL, and a Brisbane Roar supporter in the A-League. I've been supporting Everton before the A-League was formed and never followed the old NSL.

Did feel torn when Everton came here to play the Roar in the friendly but was wearing my Everton shirt and scarf. I'll stay up at ridiculous hours to watch Everton but even though I'm a Brisbane Roar STH I don't go really out of my way to watch all Roar away games.

My two main sporting loves are the Brisbane Lions and Everton.

It's not unknown for people to support a team in another country mate

I'm an Everton fan but I always look out for Hibs results

Makes sense that you'd want to support someone close to home as well as The Blues