Getting the cane at school

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Not a fan of the cane personally and some of the methods used back then sound awful and rightfully banned these days - but I do think teachers should be able to slap a child on the hand if they are not behaving (but also positive reinforcement and modern methods for good behaviour used aswell).

Thankfully alot of us grow up as adults and learn to respect one another but a minority stay immature into late teens/adulthood and I cant help but feel that the whole ban on smacking kids (parents) does nothing for these kids who if they have gotten away with everything unscathed as a kid - they are physically big/strong enough to cause real damage as an adult.

Im not old enough to remember the cane however my dad always told a story of how at school he once chucked a small stone at some teacher only for him to be pinned up by the wall by said teacher - my grandad also wasnt best pleased when he found out.

Imagine that nowadays - it would be filmed on camera and shoved on social media for everyone to harrass the teacher and call for their sacking whilst the kid gets off scott free.

Parents not disciplining their kids mixed in with social media and the police unable to properly do their jobs is imo what leads to the current mess in London with all the stabbings.

Society is slowly starting to reap what its sown for years.
 
I think ... no the hell with it I KNOW after 30 years teaching in the best and the worst schools in the country that kids like other social animals needs to learn boundaries. You see apes thwack away baby apes when they go too far. A dog that isn't scolded and shown the rules so that it knows its place is a nightmare of a dog. A child that grows up knowing that they're untouchable, doesn't experience the pain they might inflict on others is going to end up with no idea of what is right or wrong.

Ive taught children who grow up anf have gobe to jail, some for murder. Only one of them surprised me when I learned of their incarceration. They had a demonstrable lack of respect for authority from day 1 at secondary school. They had no fear. Fear of consequences is essential.

Some children, but not all, understand these boundaries without the need for physical retribution. For some the potential threat of it is enough to ensure good behaviour - and later in life they convert that threat to a respect of the threat of law. It works. I know it works because I have worked with experienced teachers who SAY it works and who saw a deterioration in behaviour after it was banned.

We're not talking psychotic thrashing here (I personally have never come across or knew anybody who alleged an unreasonable beating), which is inexcusable, we're talking a quick physical rebuke that is the alternative to dozens of adults having dozens if meetings which fail to have the same impact.

Were they caned?

Yes mate for their awful spelling.
 
Was too young for the cane. Though laws against corporal punishment didn't apply at home, did it work? Did it balls!
A better deterrent is to affect peoples free time for example a wise nco in the army will make an unruly soldier do whats called a "show parade". This entails having kit inspected by the duty guard commander, usually at 10pm on a Friday night. Much more effective than a short sharp shock.

The favourite one in the army was to have the poor unfortunate spend the whole week-end blancoing all his kit. Belt, gaiters, large pack, small pack, ammunition pouches and all relevant straps. He had to report every hour to the guardhouse, with it all done - a different colour. Khaki, green, white. It took ages just to scrub the old blanco off. We once had a guy in our platoon who was lumbered with this. We all mucked in and it took about six of us to get the job done in time.
 

The favourite one in the army was to have the poor unfortunate spend the whole week-end blancoing all his kit. Belt, gaiters, large pack, small pack, ammunition pouches and all relevant straps. He had to report every hour to the guardhouse, with it all done - a different colour. Khaki, green, white. It took ages just to scrub the old blanco off. We once had a guy in our platoon who was lumbered with this. We all mucked in and it took about six of us to get the job done in time.
A smack in the mouth or an hour doubling around camp would have taken far less time. Screw with a blokes drinking time and he'll take notice.
 
Thrashing children, treated like a sport.
Maybe we could sell the rights to Sky.
And National Service? In this current climate? Are we wanting to create a Bojo Youth?
 
Thrashing children, treated like a sport.
Maybe we could sell the rights to Sky.

And National Service? In this current climate? Are we wanting to create a Bojo Youth?

Well their having all the good stuff taken from them so perhaps that's not a bad idea after all?


(For the sake of clarity I'm joking)
 

I was threatened with the cane when I was in the infants for fidgeting in assembly - Chatsworth St CP - but the headmaster didn't go through with it. Went through secondary school in Liverpool - SMA - without it, though I probably would have when I got sent to the headmaster's office for repeated misbehavior. I was scared stiff and just didn't go. I went back into class after a few minutes and got away with it.
We went to Australia when I was 15 and on my first day at school in Wollongong I got the cane from the PT teacher, Mr Penrose - I've never forgotten the
[Poor language removed] - for not bringing my gym gear. On my first day FFS.
 
We had the slipper at our school, or a size 12 trainer if you were a sadistic PE teacher. I got two whacks on the arse with that trainer along with about 8 other kids, all in our first week of senior school. My crime was forgetting to bring a towel to PE. All the other kids had various similar infringements. He made us all stand in the corridor during the entire lesson and then at the end he made us all bend over in a line and then went down it hitting us all twice on the arse.
It wasn't just the punishment itself, but the humiliation that went with it. The teacher definitively derived some form of twisted pleasure from it.
 
We had a Scottish woodwork teacher we called jock, one day in class someone farted and stank the room out, he went mad marching around the room saying “who’s smelling who’s smelling “ No one owned up and we where all laughing so he caned the lot of us, caned for farting!!
 
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