Getting Everton....

[Seathestars]

World cup winner Alan Ball said it best I think, 'once Everton has touched you nothing else is ever quite the same'.

I could never describe that touch, but somehow Everton reach inside and the very fabric of your soul becomes blue.

 

[originalgreaserbob]

World cup winner Alan Ball said it best I think, 'once Everton has touched you nothing else is ever quite the same'.

Of course, the same could be said of herpes.

 

[Eggs]

...if you know your history you realise we support an amazing and unique football club.

 

[chrismpw]

Part of getting Everton is knowing.

Knowing that if you're winning or level against any team, and a sub comes on for the opposition, who has history with the rs, then they'll score against us.

Knowing that if the opposition has a player sent off, we'll fall to pieces.

Knowing that any brilliant saves will automatically bobble and land at the feet of an unmarked opposition striker in the box.

Knowing that the opposition never make mistakes that will gift us a goal.

Knowing, despite any preseason excitement that you will inevitably get disappointed at some point.

Knowing that however bad it gets, you can't just not look.

Knowing that there is no other team.

 

[brieverton]

For me, it is just another way of saying the manager needs to be the right fit. It really isn't any different from any other club, or walk of lfe.

It was only when Koeman started to unravel that the majority of people took issue with some of his attitudes and behaviour.

There is a saying I like "Nothing succeeds like success" - indirectly I thought Unsworth was right on the money yesterday saying the its winning that is important.

It helps when a manager understands the history and ethos of a club, the things that make supporters both excited and angry etc., but too much is made of "getting Everton" that it becomes sentimental yet again.

Martinez I thought at times went out of his way in trying to say the right thing, endear himself to fans, and appreciate our history. Koeman did not. Both of them failed miserably.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Honestly, I'd appreciated if he does, but overall NEA - I don't want him to get Everton, I want him to get Everton trophies.

Getting the club will come anyway after we win a cup or 9.

 

[johnnydawg68]

Martinez 'got' nothing, he deliberately ingratiated himself with the fans to buy him time. He came across to me like a sales rep. saying all the right things in a calculated way . People who come to the club and claim to be one of us from day one are just extracting the urine, it takes time for an outsider to fall in love with the club . I'm sure there was a section in his business degree titled 'Getting the Punters Onside' and he followed it. Haven't heard him say anything vaguely complementary about us since he left.
To be fair a lot of managers use this cynical ploy on joining a club, I'm sure O'Neill has been a lifelong boyhood fan of every club he's ever managed.

I won't fault the man for trying. More than I can say for RK.

 

[Blue_Berry]

It's about caring. Even when you really wish you didn't, cos of the grief it brings, you do because you just can't help it.

It's also like the kind of relationship you have with your pet dog. Nothing it does can ever stop you loving it.

 

[Frang]

terrible performance's and players failing to put a shift in under your management means our working week is ruined, esp if we lose.

we do not like this, and we will make sure you know about it.

if after 8 weeks it is still persisting then you will be on dodgy ground.

so whoever gets the gig will have to quickly understand this.

hard work and desire are necessities here

 

[Thomasc]

Martinez 'got' nothing, he deliberately ingratiated himself with the fans to buy him time. He came across to me like a sales rep. saying all the right things in a calculated way . People who come to the club and claim to be one of us from day one are just extracting the urine, it takes time for an outsider to fall in love with the club . I'm sure there was a section in his business degree titled 'Getting the Punters Onside' and he followed it. Haven't heard him say anything vaguely complementary about us since he left.
To be fair a lot of managers use this cynical ploy on joining a club, I'm sure O'Neill has been a lifelong boyhood fan of every club he's ever managed.

Beautifully put.

 

[Kinghowie]

You "get" Everton the same way you "get" the culture of a country.
You have to live there for a while and it's not one thing, it's thousands of them all added together and jumbled up and interacting with each other.
Over time you gain a feeling of what it means as a whole without being able to put your finger on it or sum it up in a sentence.
It's a chaos really, tens of thousands of diverse, very different people thrown together by some shared geography or passion.
However, out of this randomness, common character traits or behaviours emerge you can instantly recognise, due to the interactions and inter-dependence you all share.

Now the above is, indisputably, pretentious twaddle, but it's kind of the way it feels to me.

Just like supporters of every football then?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I won't fault the man for trying. More than I can say for RK.

Exactly

At least he tried

 

[Walken]

Doesn't really mean a great deal, as long you aren't a self serving fat arrogant dutch helmet, you don't have to read all the history books, just try putting the clubs best interests first

 

[goodisonopheliac]

I think one difference between Martinez and Koeman regarding 'getting' Everton is that Martinez has been in the UK for years, he's played and managed in England, Scotland and Wales, so I'd assume he's more aware of British footballing culture. I mean, he's going to be known more for playing for / managing Wigan than he is for his career with us. Koeman only ever managed Southampton and even then, that was only a few years ago.

Was going to say the same thing. Martinez did get it, he just couldn't make that firsts season magic last. It's little things, but I remember when he went to visit the OAP in a blue Santa hat the first xmas and how much he enjoyed that. Never in a million would RK lower himself to actually interact with the fans. Moyes endeared himself with the People's Club comment at his presser. And for his faults he demanded his teams play with an intensity that at least satisfied a part of the Evertonian psyche even if we weren't winning things.

And he did all those Christmas videos. The Bring Me Sunshine one, the bad jokes one, the chocolate one. And he did the ice bucket challenge with the rest of the squad. He was able to take the piss out of himself. Koeman would never have done that, which surprises me because as a player Koeman was always doing goofy stuff like dressing in drag or cosplaying Tintin, but as a manager he's lost his sense of humour. Even Wenger and Mourinho mess around sometimes, as does Klopp (remember the RS players quoting films?) Also, I don't know if anyone's involved with the Ruleteros here, but Martinez went to one of their meetings. Koeman would never have done that. He did dick all for EITC as well. OK, yes, his job mainly is to manage the team but I'd say getting involved with EITC should be part of the manager's job, because EITC are such a big part of what Everton are about. For me, anyway.

A girl I know who does media work for Everton said Koeman had a ban on selfies with fans and was very cold, barely smiled or made eye contact.