Fuel poverty

[Bruce Wayne]

sorry for the naivety, but does that mean we actually pay less than all those countries, or are there other factors that increase the price of the actual bill the householder pays?

Well, that's it I guess. I mean that only provides data on how much the energy costs in each country. I don't think it provides data on things like the tax governments levy on energy or the relative energy required to heat a home (ie the efficiency of the home).

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Another doozy here

"Energy bills have fallen in relation to household spending - in 1970 an average household spent 6% of their income on energy bills, in comparison to 4% in 2011."

Yes, that's the very same 1970 where the average temperature in a British home was 12degrees!!

However since 2004;

Households were spending an average of £522 a year for their energy in 2004, but now pay £1,252 a year - 3.2 per cent of income or double the 1.6 per cent of eight years ago.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...-home-rise-five-times-faster-than-income.html

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Can't be right. The consumers are being fleeced, the nation is on it's knees because of these outrageous electricity bills.

Come back when you have to pay one lid.

 

[neil999]

Well, that's it I guess. I mean that only provides data on how much the energy costs in each country. I don't think it provides data on things like the tax governments levy on energy or the relative energy required to heat a home (ie the efficiency of the home).

these are the figures we need really...

 

[Brennan]

Come back when you have to pay one lid.

(I'll take that post from you as bowing out as you've clearly got no decent response)

 

[rascal]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income

*moves to Norway*

 

[The-Golden-Vision]

Can't be right. The consumers are being fleeced, the nation is on it's knees because of these outrageous electricity bills.

Bloody Tory's!!

 

[pfim]

However since 2004;

Households were spending an average of £522 a year for their energy in 2004, but now pay £1,252 a year - 3.2 per cent of income or double the 1.6 per cent of eight years ago.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...-home-rise-five-times-faster-than-income.html

Crude oil used to be very cheap. Now it's not.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[roydo]

If they had taken my idea on board 15-20 years ago and built 30 nuclear power stations we wouldnt be in this pickle ffs.

Now we have to rely on/bribe the French to build a few for us. ****ing madness.

 

[Blue 1]

14 degrees isn't chilly. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

It is if you're a sleeping baby, or an old, immobile person, which is the point I was making.

And anyway, I've just moved out of an old cottage with ill-fitting doors and windows and high ceilings and 14 degrees felt unpleasantly chilly to me unless I was busy doing something.

The World Health Organisation recommends a room temp of 18 degrees for healthy people wearing appropriate clothing and not less than 16 for people with respiratory problems then 20 for the very young, sick and old.

Good for you if you're happy sat in 14 degrees though like, but you can get down off your high horse about it.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

I'm currently on hold to npower who, after I agreed to join after leaving Scottish power have increased my bill from £66 a month for gas and electricity to £126 a month without telling me and sending me a bill for £154 for the balance.


I don't think so.


I just them on a tarrif which meant my bill would stay the same until August 2014... Apparently

 

[Tree13]

It is if you're a sleeping baby, or an old, immobile person, which is the point I was making.

And anyway, I've just moved out of an old cottage with ill-fitting doors and windows and high ceilings and 14 degrees felt unpleasantly chilly to me unless I was busy doing something.

The World Health Organisation recommends a room temp of 18 degrees for healthy people wearing appropriate clothing and not less than 16 for people with respiratory problems then 20 for the very young, sick and old.

Good for you if you're happy sat in 14 degrees though like, but you can get down off your high horse about it.

Can the World Health Organisation explain why there were old people, children and sick people wandering around today in apparently life-threatening temperatures of less than 18 degrees all over the country? admittedly I can only say what I saw on the streets of Brighton, but what I DIDN'T see was anyone keeling over with hypothermia as the mercury plummeted to eight degrees.

You hit the nail on the head when you made a fleeting reference to wearing appropriate clothing - people who find it chilly to sit in a house that isn't artificially heated to the same temperature as a May afternoon are probably dressed inappropriately. Choosing to turn up the heating and bitch about the cost, rather than putting on a jumper and a pair of skiing socks, just strikes me as remarkably short-sighted.