LEONARD
Player Valuation: £60m
Yep it's time to get a new one this December.
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Yep it's time to get a new one this December.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
Wasn't it more like a 6-4-0 formation?
Yep someone else recommended "Inverting The Pyramid" to me... haven't got around to reading it yet but defo intend to.
Awesome book.
I think that was one of 'Moists' experiments.
So to sum up:
( tags in @JordanianEmbassy, @Seathestars & @ToffeeDan )
There are only so many permutations of the numbers game and most, if not all, have been tried. Many it has to be said, have been re-tried, aka Re-Invented, sometimes with a slight twist, but essentially the same, more times than Bowie and Madonna.
Deep down though, Football is a simple kids game.
Think back to those days of coats for goalposts, when 3 of you was enough to get a game going - for those who don't know - 1 goes in goal, boots the ball in the air, whoever gets the ball first is attacking, the other, therefore, defending. As soon as you lost the ball the roles were reversed, you became the defender. The first one to score stayed on and the loser went in goal, with the keeper coming out to take you on.
...a simple game kids game, made complicated by bovine excrementers now played by men for a kings ransom.
So if all the numbers have been done it comes down to the teams and how 'good' they actually are.
Good teams, the really good ones, just play football, they defend, they attack, they do all the stuff in between, the passing, the moving, the getting it, the giving it.
The key part is how much you can ally skill with application. e.g. all the skill in the world is no good without the effort to use it to good effect.
We have seen with Martinez that having 65-70% possession is not necessarily the be all and end all. We have seen with Ranieri and others that 35% possession is ample...but only if you do something with it
Herbert Chapman was doing much the same in the 20's and 30's using one or maybe 2 of these now 'Old Fashioned' formations. His teams won 6 League Titles, even though he died halfway through season 5(?), they still won that one and another - But once the new guy changed it??? and/or players were swopped out of the team for various reasons they fell away.
Anyway my version fwiw, is don't get hung up on numbers...it was only a handy label for newspapers and old style printers of progams...In the 60's the Everton Program still showed the team in a 2, 3, 5, formation - and they'd well moved on from that by 20, 30 yrs.
The only formation you need is a winning formation, this comes about by having better players, who, when matched by players of equal skill, try harder.
There is no substitute for the cliché - They wanted it more...that's why its a cliché
When you don't, you lose - no matter how much better, on paper, your players are.
That's how simple it is...
You can boil the whole 'Formations' thing down to 2 words that trump all your formations:-
Better Players.
*ends mini rant.
( tags in @JordanianEmbassy, @Seathestars & @ToffeeDan )
There are only so many permutations of the numbers game and most, if not all, have been tried. Many it has to be said, have been re-tried, aka Re-Invented, sometimes with a slight twist, but essentially the same, more times than Bowie and Madonna.
Deep down though, Football is a simple kids game.
Think back to those days of coats for goalposts, when 3 of you was enough to get a game going - for those who don't know - 1 goes in goal, boots the ball in the air, whoever gets the ball first is attacking, the other, therefore, defending. As soon as you lost the ball the roles were reversed, you became the defender. The first one to score stayed on and the loser went in goal, with the keeper coming out to take you on.
...a simple game kids game, made complicated by bovine excrementers now played by men for a kings ransom.
So if all the numbers have been done it comes down to the teams and how 'good' they actually are.
Good teams, the really good ones, just play football, they defend, they attack, they do all the stuff in between, the passing, the moving, the getting it, the giving it.
The key part is how much you can ally skill with application. e.g. all the skill in the world is no good without the effort to use it to good effect.
We have seen with Martinez that having 65-70% possession is not necessarily the be all and end all. We have seen with Ranieri and others that 35% possession is ample...but only if you do something with it
Herbert Chapman was doing much the same in the 20's and 30's using one or maybe 2 of these now 'Old Fashioned' formations. His teams won 6 League Titles, even though he died halfway through season 5(?), they still won that one and another - But once the new guy changed it??? and/or players were swopped out of the team for various reasons they fell away.
Anyway my version fwiw, is don't get hung up on numbers...it was only a handy label for newspapers and old style printers of progams...In the 60's the Everton Program still showed the team in a 2, 3, 5, formation - and they'd well moved on from that by 20, 30 yrs.
The only formation you need is a winning formation, this comes about by having better players, who, when matched by players of equal skill, try harder.
There is no substitute for the cliché - They wanted it more...that's why its a cliché
When you don't, you lose - no matter how much better, on paper, your players are.
That's how simple it is...
You can boil the whole 'Formations' thing down to 2 words that trump all your formations:-
Better Players.
*ends mini rant.
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