FFP and West Ham

[steken1]

Brady, sullivan & Gold will get the price down by offering 8mill and a stash of porn.

I'd glady swap Naismith for a tape of Debbie does Dallas, or even just Dallas.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Brady, sullivan & Gold will get the price down by offering 8mill and a stash of porn.

I wish I didn't use my real name on here because I've got buckets of Karen Brady jokes I'm just itching to use, but i can't afford the ensuing law suit

 

[sheeds]

Brady, sullivan & Gold will get the price down by offering 8mill and a stash of porn.

I have heard some horrific stories about this lot and their business practices . I'd certainly say that I'm told you really need to check the contracts with them and then make sure they haven't sneaked another page into the contract after you've checked it and amazingly that isn't a joke.

Rodgers is such a tool for the way he handled that

He'd made his mind up before he even got there. Here's an idea Brendon, if you're such a good manager, why don't you try him for a season before deciding you can't do anything?

Carroll may not be a 35 Million player, but he can be a useful player and deserved better treatment. It's not his fault if Kenneth had a bout of insanity

Said it at the time the bloke handled it horrifically and not just him Adam. you don't tell a player he's got no future when they're on big money, there isn't a bid on the table and they don't want to go , its so far away from the way it should have handled and Rodgers showed not just his inexperience but also just how far out of his depth he was.

 

[mawders]

Imagine the conversations "Ok Andy, we'll let you go if we get a bid of 15m"....what's that?, liverpool want him with their new money....ask for 35M"

"Ok Jordan, you're not that good so if liverpool bid 6-7m we'll let you go....hold on Mike Ashley is on the phone...what...you got 35m for Carroll?...OK......ask for 20m....and get me Randy Lerner on the phone...it's his lucky day"

 

[Librarian]

Newcastle must have been laughing up their sleeves around the negotiation table.

 

[Allezfan]

Newcastle must have been laughing up their sleeves around the negotiation table.

Up their bair hairy fat arms, you mean.

 

[steken1]

I wish I didn't use my real name on here because I've got buckets of Karen Brady jokes I'm just itching to use, but i can't afford the ensuing law suit

Scared of a woman. Start calling you Tyrone, seems as you look like him a bit in your avatar too!

 

[steken1]

Bruce himself said to the Chairman if they bid he's worth £4m minimum. The RS came in with £12m and they always turn the first one down. Came back with £16m +add on's. Hahahahaha.

The geordies asked for the full dough in one hit and the RS had to go back to Chelsea and renegotiate the Torres deal to pay it.

 

[sheeds]

Bruce himself said to the Chairman if they bid he's worth £4m minimum. The RS came in with £12m and they always turn the first one down. Came back with £16m +add on's. Hahahahaha.

The geordies asked for the full dough in one hit and the RS had to go back to Chelsea and renegotiate the Torres deal to pay it.

I heard with the Henderson one that they rang up and asked for a price and when Sunderland gave a figure they said "ok" and the executive at Sunderland nearly fell of his chair , they couldn't believe it. Their transfer dealings with Comolli and dalglish were complete comedy but it's added to that Rodgers has seemed clueless in how to shift people out , I love it.

 

[Brennan]

If Suarez got sold for £40m i wouldn't be worried with Gervais in charge of them. He's spent that much this season and only one of his buys looks like he could be worth the price (Coutinho).

 

[steken1]

I heard with the Henderson one that they rang up and asked for a price and when Sunderland gave a figure they said "ok" and the executive at Sunderland nearly fell of his chair , they couldn't believe it. Their transfer dealings with Comolli and dalglish were complete comedy but it's added to that Rodgers has seemed clueless in how to shift people out , I love it.

The way he tried to shift them two this season showed he hasn't got a clue IMO. Long may it continue.

 

[njligernj]

This FFP EPL rule on wages will kill us stone dead and people haven't woken up to it yet. Everton are already way above the £54M wage level that triggers a clamping down of spending on wages. The club will love it because it'll allow them to keep hold of more of the greater tv deal cash coming in, but for competitive purposes we wll be screwed. The only way around it is to generate commercial revenue which allows you to spend more money on wages and stays within the rules on 'sensible' spending...but as you can see here we're not at the races in that respect.

I haven't read that much about it (and it's hard to find much detailed information) however a few notes:

Yes we above the threshold which will trigger the "short term cost control" measure. However it does not mean (AFAIK) that we must decrease our wages to below that figure. It merely means we have triggered a rule in which we are limited to a 4m p/year increase in wages.

Given our board I think it's unlikely that with or without these restrictions we'd be increasing our wages by significantly more than 4m in one year.

I read that there might be points deducted for "extreme cases." I wouldn't say going 1m over the 4m increase limit is extreme -- so it's hard to know exactly how much in the way of penalties a club would face for breaking the rules.

I'm also fairly sure if Man City wanted to challenge this in an EU court they'd probably win -- although I am 99% talking out of my arse there.

That said I don't doubt for a second the board might use it as an excuse to lower spending. However (as with almost everything the board do) any changes might be a case of PR spin rather than reality.

The Short Term Cost Control measure applies only to clubs with a player wage bill in excess of £52m in 2013/14, £56m in 2014/15 and £60m in 2015/16.

I wonder what happens if you're at 30m in wages and you increase it to 100m in one year. You weren't part of the restricted group. Is 52m essentially a salary cap now?

1) Losses restricted to maximum of £105m over three-year period

Not an issue for now.

2) Clubs whose total wage bill is more than £52 million will only be allowed to increase their wages by £4 million per season for the next three years (i..e £56 million the following year, and £60 million in 2015-16; only 7 of the current Premier League clubs would be included in that at the moment).

I don't think this will impact our ability to compete as much as not having the money does. A little reshuffling of contracts (losing Neville's contract and maybe Heits) will give us enough "cap room" to buy more players than we could afford anyway.

3) Wage bills can be supplemented by income generated separately from matchday and commercial revenue.

This is worded oddly. Is this suggesting you cannot use matchday and commercial revenue? I'm not sure how they are handling how revenue is "assigned" here. What about the added TV money? Does that immediately allow everyone to supplement?

4) Losses of more than £5 million a year to be guaranteed against the assets of the club’s owner.

This could be an issue as a 5m+ loss is possible.

5) Any breach of salary or spending regulations could result in a points deduction in extreme cases.

I'm sure the clubs know more but once again it's almost impossible to analyze the impact this will have with such non-specific information. If anyone has a better resource for info I'd love to read up on this.

 

[Librarian]

Ergo, if we qualify for Europe, the income changes and therefore the spending.