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In China, known protesters are stopped en route to any event before they even board the train or whatever by the use of FR.They have basically stopped protests in their tracks using this method. The same can be for here and it is the end of the road.
And think you are on the wrong track ,we give permissions on almost everything on our phones ,as said before they can then track us .We are on every sort of app from fitness walks to "where is my friend" and every one can find out your details at one minutes notice .We use apps to order taxis get the bus/train timetable but yet you think they are wrong following you on surveillance cameras .
The world has already got all these things ,it is only the ones who have a reason to hide that are worried .
In Finland you can put a registration number in your phone and get the owner ,driver ,address and more for just pennies .
Google your own name and there you are .I am 71 and I sure that there is more than I know about.
That ship my friend has long sailed .
 
Just listened to an interesting programme on Radio 4 about this. I have long been a doubter and this just cemented my opinion.

It is rife in CHina and used to control peoples movements. The uk trials (4 years so basically operational process) have now become actual practice in South Wales and with the Met in London. It is also used at football matches. If you have been you Euro away games you will have all seen the "spotters" looking for trouble makers but this is a whole new ball game.

It has a terrible success rate, in some tests 80% of faces were wrong, even wrong sex and race!"

Many cities in the US and also Scottish parliament do not allow it's use.

The biggest concern for me is that it takes away the ability to protest and dissuades activism, without which we would still have the poll tax, no vote for women and so on. The old bill response is always that if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide however, if you plan on attending a peaceful protest in your teens it will always have you down as an trouble maker or similar.

All very Orwellian I think and actually deserves a huge protest before it is fully ingrained in our society.

What do we think?
With the advent of deepfake, video evidence will become moot in a couple of years anyway
 
I mean if you use a Google (Android) phone, notice how it knows where you usually go and stuff as long as you have "Location" - it shows live traffic updates and constantly asks "is this your workplace/home" etc., as well as actively tracking everywhere you go.

I mean you can turn that off, but I believe someone found a while back that it still tracks you actively on the map anyway.

That said, I'm a sucker for basic convenience and that has helped me a lot so personally I don't care as much as I probably should.
This is partly why I’ll never switch from iPhone/Mac now.

I’ve never had a single privacy or virus issue with any Apple products and you have to give apps permission through the Apple UI to allow them to use the microphone, camera etc. Android phones seem to do what they want.

Android Sucks 10X More of Your Private Data Than iPhone

By Jesus Diaz August 22, 2018
It's not only location: Google phones seems to be sucking up as much data as they can about users, while Apple keeps it cool.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/android-privacy-vs-iphone,news-27856.html
 

And think you are on the wrong track ,we give permissions on almost everything on our phones ,as said before they can then track us .We are on every sort of app from fitness walks to "where is my friend" and every one can find out your details at one minutes notice .We use apps to order taxis get the bus/train timetable but yet you think they are wrong following you on surveillance cameras .
The world has already got all these things ,it is only the ones who have a reason to hide that are worried .
In Finland you can put a registration number in your phone and get the owner ,driver ,address and more for just pennies .
Google your own name and there you are .I am 71 and I sure that there is more than I know about.
That ship my friend has
With the advent of deepfake, video evidence will become moot in a couple of years anyway
deepfake, sounds like my wife’s kinda stuff
 
we are more spied on in the UK than the whole of the eastern block ever was & they had families and neighbours spying on each other.

'They' will know I've just typed this, everywhere i've been to and every genre i've accessed in incognito mode.
 
With the advent of deepfake, video evidence will become moot in a couple of years anyway

Luckily the technology is still miles off being undetectable, will be a lot longer than a couple of years before we get to a stage where people can’t prove something is a deepfake in a court of law.
 
Just listened to an interesting programme on Radio 4 about this. I have long been a doubter and this just cemented my opinion.

It is rife in CHina and used to control peoples movements. The uk trials (4 years so basically operational process) have now become actual practice in South Wales and with the Met in London. It is also used at football matches. If you have been you Euro away games you will have all seen the "spotters" looking for trouble makers but this is a whole new ball game.

It has a terrible success rate, in some tests 80% of faces were wrong, even wrong sex and race!"

Many cities in the US and also Scottish parliament do not allow it's use.

The biggest concern for me is that it takes away the ability to protest and dissuades activism, without which we would still have the poll tax, no vote for women and so on. The old bill response is always that if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide however, if you plan on attending a peaceful protest in your teens it will always have you down as an trouble maker or similar.

All very Orwellian I think and actually deserves a huge protest before it is fully ingrained in our society.

What do we think?
Nevermind Homeland Security, Las Vegas will have the best going, as money talks.
 
This is partly why I’ll never switch from iPhone/Mac now.

I’ve never had a single privacy or virus issue with any Apple products and you have to give apps permission through the Apple UI to allow them to use the microphone, camera etc. Android phones seem to do what they want.

Android Sucks 10X More of Your Private Data Than iPhone

By Jesus Diaz August 22, 2018
It's not only location: Google phones seems to be sucking up as much data as they can about users, while Apple keeps it cool.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/android-privacy-vs-iphone,news-27856.html
They do for all apps as well, just the default google location one seems to be working whenever it deems necessary.
 

...reminds me of going through passport control last year. My son is 6ft, fair hair with blue eyes and the facial recognition system brought up a very black chap with an affro. The official shook his head as though it happens all the time.
 
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