Everton Scouts

[WA Toffee]

My dad is a scout now for Sunderland. Previously a scout for 20 odd years at Portsmouth when they were in the prem and then Brighton. Followed Poyet to Sunderland. We are both blues though.

Anyways he's scouted kids football and was paid a salary so its defo different at different clubs. No commission, nor was there a problem attending any tournament he wanted. In fact most came from invites from the specific clubs or tournament runners. He used to get the decent ones locally into Brighton/ Portsmouth 'soccer schools' as we live down south. That was a better system in my opinion. Scouted right up to 1st team and never had a commission for players he found. He's also scouted up and down the country. No way would they limit themselves to the area the club is based. Yes there would be a heavier influence of northern scouts in that area but it can actually be dependant on where the scout lives. For example my dad being a southerner had a heavy influence down south, but for northern based clubs if that makes sense?! This was years ago. Now he's expected to cover nearly every mile in the country & go over to European tournaments etc. Modern day scouting is far more detailed than even 5-6 years ago. He completes match reports too so the manager can asses these before playing that opposition. I find it really interesting actually. Don't think they get enough credit from a wider audience. Within football they do, hence why we lost our best scout to Chelsea. Anyways thought I'd throw my two pennies worth in!

Can you ask your dad for a 2 paragraph scouting summary on Deulofeu? I have been reading his thread and people are unsure if he is potentially world class or total cr@p.

 

[4737carlin]

I thought Martinez did all our scouting himself, at home sat on his L shaped armchair constantly watching football on the telly

 

[mightymoyes]

Whens the last time we signed anyone you think a lot of scouting work went into?

 

[COYBL25]

Whens the last time we signed anyone you think a lot of scouting work went into?

Possibly John Stones ?

The law of averages says that there's got to be lads in the lowers leagues like Stones who are just aren't getting a sniff.

Arsenal played a lower league game in one of the cups this year - may have been Darlington, who gave them a real run for the money. Wenger went on record afterwards to say that he would be altering their scouting system after that game to look at the lower leagues as he was amazed by the standard . In other words prior to that they hadn't bothered as it was easier to buy the finished article, usually from abroad.

Man City have got one of the biggest academy's in Europe, yet so far haven't produced a single first team player !

 

[chicoazul]

The club need to sign up 50% of the posters in the Transfer Thread as they seemingly have world class insight into footballing talent globe wise.

 

[Nymzee]

Everton don't have any scouts.

 

[catcherintherye]

Possibly John Stones ?

The law of averages says that there's got to be lads in the lowers leagues like Stones who are just aren't getting a sniff.

Arsenal played a lower league game in one of the cups this year - may have been Darlington, who gave them a real run for the money. Wenger went on record afterwards to say that he would be altering their scouting system after that game to look at the lower leagues as he was amazed by the standard . In other words prior to that they hadn't bothered as it was easier to buy the finished article, usually from abroad.

Man City have got one of the biggest academy's in Europe, yet so far haven't produced a single first team player !

Keep up with the insights mates, very interesting to read.

To be fair to Manchester City they had a spell of producing lots of players. Michael Johnson, Micah Richards and Shaun Wright Phillips being good examples.

 

[Nymzee]

Keep up with the insights mates, very interesting to read.

To be fair to Manchester City they had a spell of producing lots of players. Michael Johnson, Micah Richards and Shaun Wright Phillips being good examples.

City's academy has improved of late and players like Barker, Ntcham etc. might see the first team eventually.

 

[jaspercabbage]

There's meant to be a really good book about the scouting systems of clubs and Everton under Moyes gets a chapter about how he developed a system that only a select few of about 5 got to know out targets. One of the many reasons I'm convinced theres no such thing as ITK's to be honest.

It's called the Nowhere Men, keep meaning to buy myself but I've got other stuff I'm reading for now.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Nowhere-Men-Michael-Calvin/dp/1780891075

Ordered that a couple of days ago for Father's Day, think the old man will love it.

 

[SingBlue]

The club need to sign up 50% of the posters in the Transfer Thread as they seemingly have world class insight into footballing talent globe wise.

They'll sign the wrong 50%.

Eberton that

 

[Joey66]

I thought Martinez did all our scouting himself, at home sat on his L shaped armchair constantly watching football on the telly

yes watch all his old Wigan games!lol