Everton and the Poppy Appeal 2016

[davek]

Why are we doing this remembrance stuff today when no other club has this weekend?

 

[anjelikaferrett]

Well thats well out of order imo. I know last year was a significant anniversary, but even so.

It ony happened last year because @The Esk requested it.

It's a scandal really. As said last year, the lack of recognition is staggering given that more people at that home game will have MN connections than army, RN, RAF ones combined I'd imagine.

I'm afraid I gave up supporting the British Legion last year because of this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/61...-Navy-heroic-veterans-Festival-of-Remembrance

As the daughter of a retired merchant sea captain and old enough to have had uncles who were in the Merchant Navy during WW2, I was, and still am, outraged at the lack of recognition. And also the pettiness. It is not just WW2 either - the Atlantic Conveyor was a Merchant ship sunk during the Falklands War

 

[dublinbluenose]

Why are we doing this remembrance stuff today when no other club has this weekend?

Only home game between now and mid November ?

Although I think other clubs have

 

[The Esk]

Sad that the Merchant Navy were not represented. I made the point today that in future years they should be, the recognition of their contribution should be automatic, particularly from the senior club of a city with such maritime heritage.

 

[bluestevon]

Sad that the Merchant Navy were not represented. I made the point today that in future years they should be, the recognition of their contribution should be automatic, particularly from the senior club of a city with such maritime heritage.

Totally agree, had several of my grans brothers who where in the merchant navy on the Baltic convoys and they deserve it as what they had to endure was brutal to say the least

 

[davek]

Sad that the Merchant Navy were not represented. I made the point today that in future years they should be, the recognition of their contribution should be automatic, particularly from the senior club of a city with such maritime heritage.

The other services are more important, that's the only conclusion I can draw tbh. You pulled them up on it specifically last season and they acted. Leave them to it though and they ignore them.

It's an insult. Liverpool seamen WERE the Merchant Navy. The people being remembered today wouldn't have eaten or had weapons to do their fighting otherwise. Either honour no one or honour them all.

 

[The Esk]

The other services are more important, that's the only conclusion I can draw tbh. You pulled them up on it specifically last season and they acted. Leave them to it though and they ignore them.

It's an insult. Liverpool seamen WERE the Merchant Navy. The people being remembered today wouldn't have eaten or had weapons to do their fighting otherwise. Either honour no one or honour them all.

I made a mistake Dave in assuming they would continue from last year, given how well it was received.

I won't make the same mistake next year, I'll remind them in September.

 

[Khalekan]

The other services are more important, that's the only conclusion I can draw tbh. You pulled them up on it specifically last season and they acted. Leave them to it though and they ignore them.

It's an insult. Liverpool seamen WERE the Merchant Navy. The people being remembered today wouldn't have eaten or had weapons to do their fighting otherwise. Either honour no one or honour them all.

Indeed, Dave.

My grandad was a merchant sailor whom was torpedoed seven times on the Russian convoys, finally dying when, after being fished out the drink on the final occasion, he took pneumonia and succumbed on the way home.

 

[davek]

I made a mistake Dave in assuming they would continue from last year, given how well it was received.

I won't make the same mistake next year, I'll remind them in September.

Appreciate that mate. Excellent work last season.

They really shouldn't need persuading though should they? The club trades on its community outreach and to ignore such a massively significant group of people is an outrage and makes a laughing stock of their claim to do that. I can only think what the remaining WWII MN veterans in this city think when they see all other branches of the services on the pitch and represented - bitter I'd expect, especially after being there last season. WTF are they playing at?

 

[The Esk]

They really shouldn't need persuading though should they?

Totally agree. Seems like oversight this year, but it's not difficult, and as I said above, should just be automatic.

 

[davek]

Indeed, Dave.

My grandad was a merchant sailor whom was torpedoed seven times on the Russian convoys, finally dying when, after being fished out the drink on the final occasion, he took pneumonia and succumbed on the way home.

That was a run most other merchant men would have gone awol for rather than face. I had family who did exactly that: jumped off ships in Nova Scotia and just waited for another ship to come in to sign up for.

I think all the Arctic convoy men were honoured by the Russian Government a while back for keeping them fed and with armaments...ironic that the Russians value our old boys more than a football club in their own city who most would have supported. An effing disgrace.