England - Always Planning For The Future.

[youngblue66]

I still can't believe Hodgson is getting little criticism from the media. For 2 years he told us of the 'lessons he'd learnt' in numerous poor performances but he should be giving us answers. Instead, the 2nd highest paid International team manager ( Capello still manages to be No.1 ) is planning for the next tournament.
His first task - to try and persuade Gerrard and Lampard to carry on!!!
As Mike Pejic says, permanently planning for the future starts to sound awfully like passing the buck.

 

[ijjysmith]

Who could do a better job?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Who could do a better job?

I'd like Steve Bruce, been impressed with how he managed Hull last season including some very difficult off field issues.

 

[ijjysmith]

I'd like Steve Bruce, been impressed with how he managed Hull last season including some very difficult off field issues.

It's an interesting shout actually.

Just don't think he has the right image that the fools at the FA would choose.

 

[LinekersLegs]

It's an interesting shout actually.

Just don't think he has the right image that the fools at the FA would choose.

Oh he will not get the job, as you say not the right image and think he's ruffled a few feathers over his time.

But tactics wise think he is much better than Hodgson, got a lot of pleasure from Hull beating Liverpool with 3 at the back whilst Rodgers was trying a back 4 comprised soley of CBs

 

[paulbefc]

I like the man, but I think he's a bang average manager at best.

That said, I'd bet that currently, there's not many harder jobs out there than the England one, in football.

 

[bluemangroup]

Blaming one man and one man only every 2 or 4 years doesn't really solve a systematic problem.

 

[youngblue66]

Who could do a better job?

I'd suggest someone below the age of 50 for a start. What about Nigel Pearson, Lee Clark or Simon Grayson. That's just 3, I'm sure there are more who could do something better over the next 2 years.

 

[ijjysmith]

I'd suggest someone below the age of 50 for a start. What about Nigel Pearson, Lee Clark or Simon Grayson. That's just 3, I'm sure there are more who could do something better over the next 2 years.

Clark and Grayson are massive no's from me, but Pearson is interesting. As is Eddie Howe.

However the FA won't ever go for someone like that. And even if they did I fear they'd be unable to deflect the 'big club' bias which there is believed to be.

 

[ijjysmith]

Blaming one man and one man only every 2 or 4 years doesn't really solve a systematic problem.

This on absolute toast.

The manager undoubtedly made mistakes this tournament. That's obvious, but to think any other manager wouldn't have picked Gerrard is lunacy. Of course they would have.

And that's just one example.

There are many deep rooted causes in why we failed this summer. The manager is but one, however it the obvious and easy target.

 

[youngblue66]

Clark and Grayson are massive no's from me, but Pearson is interesting. As is Eddie Howe.

However the FA won't ever go for someone like that. And even if they did I fear they'd be unable to deflect the 'big club' bias which there is believed to be.

Isn't that part of the problem though? There needs to be change at the FA as well, otherwise it becomes futile just changing the manager - Hodgson and Sven are the same person really, really nice, genial blokes.

 

[bluemangroup]

There are more than enough technically proficient youngsters coming through the ranks to compete at an international level, but there is no nationally identifiable way of playing to utilise these players and give them a sense of direction. What we've seen this World Cup is teams beating ensemble casts.
It needs an incredibly strong willed manager to shed the deadwood and big reputations and put together a team that compliment each other and get them playing one way, and get them playing it as good if not better than anyone else. Slowly introduce a little tactical flexibility as you go along rather than a hodge podge. Selection was a step in the right direction, as he was willing to pick people with regards to the future. He needs to go a step further for me though.

 

[Ashtonian]

what bothered me about this world cup was not the fact we went out of it.

It was the fact we went out due to piss poor tactics that were not changed at all. We lost the first game playing the tactics and then went out and done the same tactics and ended up with the same scoreline. only one man to blame for that.


And after blaming him ,blame hodgson the kopite bunch of bananas.

 

[ijjysmith]

England didn't even play that badly this time. We played much better football than in South Africa. That's not even an arguement.

Here's what Roberto thought:

Looking back at other tournaments, it was the case of trying to progress and go through. This time around, it has been a clear approach of: let's try to be ourselves, let's try to find solutions and learn from the experience for the future; if we progress in this tournament, great, if not we'll get the benefits.

There is a real legacy growing in this new England set-up

He's right too. We weren't that bad. Just not good enough.

 

[bluemangroup]

England didn't even play that badly this time. We played much better football than in South Africa. That's not even an arguement.

Here's what Roberto though:



He's right too. We weren't that bad. Just not good enough.

Wouldn't trust a word that Iberian tosser said. Use the phrase "footballing arrogance" enough times and people think you're some sort of expert.