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anjelikaferrett

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I was doing my weekly shop in Morrisons earlier today. The lady on the checkout kept apologising to me and I wasn't quite sure why. I asked her if she was OK. She told me that she had come into work early to start at 5.30 only to discover that her shift had changed and it was a 4.30 start. Nobody had told her and she was upset because, even though it wasn't her fault (agreed by her manager), she had been late for work. Last minute shift changes are not uncommon and she was thinking she would have to phone in next week while she was away on holiday in Germany to find out her work pattern. She also cared for her brother who had special needs and the shift changes were not helpful for this either. She told me she worked flexible hours -she gets a set number a week and they tell her what days and times. But they keep changing it.

I admit, I've been a Union rep for the neck end of 20 years so I listened and hopefully gave her a few pointers as to what she could do about this. It makes my blood boil how badly some employers treat their staff, I've spent years dealing with incompetent, bullying managers who rule by fear and have no empathy with the people who work for them. Example 1: an application for time off for a bereavement (the person's mother had died) was refused because "your Mum was terminally ill, it wasn't unexpected, you could have arranged things in advance" Example 2: somebody given a final warning for poor attendance while having chemo for breast cancer. You could not make it up. Those same employees when they come to me for advice, usually say "I don't want to make a fuss I'm happy to have a job" That does not mean you can be treated like dirt. It isn't a race to the bottom, a good manager treats their employees with a bit of respect and usually the employee will respond in kind. It isn't rocket science!

Unfortunately for the lady in Morrisons, retail staff seem to be particularly badly treated. Enter stage right Mike Ashley with his zero hours contracts and minimum wage.

Anyway guys thanks for listening, I really needed to let off steam!
 

I was doing my weekly shop in Morrisons earlier today. The lady on the checkout kept apologising to me and I wasn't quite sure why. I asked her if she was OK. She told me that she had come into work early to start at 5.30 only to discover that her shift had changed and it was a 4.30 start. Nobody had told her and she was upset because, even though it wasn't her fault (agreed by her manager), she had been late for work. Last minute shift changes are not uncommon and she was thinking she would have to phone in next week while she was away on holiday in Germany to find out her work pattern. She also cared for her brother who had special needs and the shift changes were not helpful for this either. She told me she worked flexible hours -she gets a set number a week and they tell her what days and times. But they keep changing it.

I admit, I've been a Union rep for the neck end of 20 years so I listened and hopefully gave her a few pointers as to what she could do about this. It makes my blood boil how badly some employers treat their staff, I've spent years dealing with incompetent, bullying managers who rule by fear and have no empathy with the people who work for them. Example 1: an application for time off for a bereavement (the person's mother had died) was refused because "your Mum was terminally ill, it wasn't unexpected, you could have arranged things in advance" Example 2: somebody given a final warning for poor attendance while having chemo for breast cancer. You could not make it up. Those same employees when they come to me for advice, usually say "I don't want to make a fuss I'm happy to have a job" That does not mean you can be treated like dirt. It isn't a race to the bottom, a good manager treats their employees with a bit of respect and usually the employee will respond in kind. It isn't rocket science!

Unfortunately for the lady in Morrisons, retail staff seem to be particularly badly treated. Enter stage right Mike Ashley.

Anyway guys thanks for listening, I really needed to let off steam!

Doesn't surprise me in the least. The lad I look after, his ma has problems getting time off when he or she needs it, as I'm his official carer according to DWP.

And when me ma died (God rest her soul) I had to take in a copy of her death certificate to jaguar/landrover in order to get bereavement leave. Three days before she died I told the supervisor she could pass at any time, and that I might have to do the off if I got a phone call...Well I got one 20 mins before the shift ended. Told the lad in the office to inform the supervisor when he got back and rushed over to Clatterbridge.

Got a recorded delivery letter the next day (Saturday) informing me they'd be holding a disciplinary hearing for leaving 15 mins before the end of the shift even though they were aware of the situation.

Me mam was dead on the following tuesday morning. They didn't cancel the hearing until the very last minute.
 
Doesn't surprise me in the least. The lad I look after, his ma has problems getting time off when he or she needs it, as I'm his official carer according to DWP.

And when me ma died (God rest her soul) I had to take in a copy of her death certificate to jaguar/landrover in order to get bereavement leave. Three days before she died I told the supervisor she could pass at any time, and that I might have to do the off if I got a phone call...Well I got one 20 mins before the shift ended. Told the lad in the office to inform the supervisor when he got back and rushed over to Clatterbridge.

Got a recorded delivery letter the next day (Saturday) informing me they'd be holding a disciplinary hearing for leaving 15 mins before the end of the shift even though they were aware of the situation.

Me mam was dead on the following tuesday morning. They didn't cancel the hearing until the very last minute.
I was going to like your post but it didn't seem appropriate. That's outrageous, where's the compassion? I'm convinced there was a massive change in attitude when personnel changed it's name to human resources and, we the workers, stopped being people and became a resource
 

I left my last job of 33 years in part because of the fact the managers ruled by fear and intimidation, not so much of me, but others (I was the union rep and they knew better than to try it with me directly). Now at a job where the boss knows his stuff, but you need an electron microscope to find his people skills sometimes. Way of the world, it seems.
 
Doesn't surprise me in the least. The lad I look after, his ma has problems getting time off when he or she needs it, as I'm his official carer according to DWP.

And when me ma died (God rest her soul) I had to take in a copy of her death certificate to jaguar/landrover in order to get bereavement leave. Three days before she died I told the supervisor she could pass at any time, and that I might have to do the off if I got a phone call...Well I got one 20 mins before the shift ended. Told the lad in the office to inform the supervisor when he got back and rushed over to Clatterbridge.

Got a recorded delivery letter the next day (Saturday) informing me they'd be holding a disciplinary hearing for leaving 15 mins before the end of the shift even though they were aware of the situation.

Me mam was dead on the following tuesday morning. They didn't cancel the hearing until the very last minute.

Sorry to the mods in advance for this bad language. But what complete and utter [Poor language removed].
 
Sorry to the mods in advance for this bad language. But what complete and utter [Poor language removed].

Mate, that place is full of the worst sh...ouses around. And I mean FULL of them. From senior management to cleaners, it's weaselsville. :dodgy:

I could write volumes about the subterranean levels of snide that goes on in that place, but I'll just stick with the supervisor...

The same supervisor wanted to give me a disciplinary for taking an agency lad (One of only 3 decent lads there) to the drive through mcdonalds in hunt's cross to get him (The supervisor) a cheeseburger - we got back 5 minutes after the break had ended, because mcdonalds was rammed!

After the supervisor told outright lies which eventually got me sacked from there (Not two months after me mam died) I was told a few weeks later by one of the weasels still working there (A backsliding cocaine-dealing workshy lazy rat who took more time off than the pope's john thomas) that the supervisor was going around saying he fronted me and offered me a straightener!!

So, if anyone lives around the townsend lane area, and knows a fat, bald manc called 'Joeh' (He does NOT like that :)) with half his teeth missing and a ridiculous tongue stud, please be sure to point and laugh at the little fat mess, or better still, just sneer at the meff. And be content in the knowledge that if I ever bump into him...
 
The good old union reps seem to be a thing of the past now unfortunately. Used to have some great battles with people who knew their stuff. Now even the missus has left Unison because we agreed I'd be better off defending her if the need should ever arise. I know it shouldn't matter but shocked to learn that most of the reps in our place now are Tories....
 

Seems to be a growing trend in certain workplaces to hire absolute snides and bullies as middle managers.

They know that they rule through fear and a large portion of the staff will grin and bear it. And should a serious complaints arise, then the higher ups can simply replace said middle manager with another low paid snide with zero consequence to themselves.
 
The good old union reps seem to be a thing of the past now unfortunately. Used to have some great battles with people who knew their stuff. Now even the missus has left Unison because we agreed I'd be better off defending her if the need should ever arise. I know it shouldn't matter but shocked to learn that most of the reps in our place now are Tories....

She's no worse off for leaving the union mate.

Union solicitor wouldn't take my case to a tribunal because he thought I'd have little chance of winning - even though meself & the convenor proved that management had sacked me for something different to what they said they'd sacked me for, and on the flimsiest of evidence (Supervisor's lies). Added to the blatant victimisation, and prevalent blame culture.

Said I could make me own case to take to a tribunal

Told him exactly what I thought of him right there & then. He scurried off red-faced, the useless, overpaid, stuffed-shirt.
 
The good old union reps seem to be a thing of the past now unfortunately. Used to have some great battles with people who knew their stuff. Now even the missus has left Unison because we agreed I'd be better off defending her if the need should ever arise. I know it shouldn't matter but shocked to learn that most of the reps in our place now are Tories....
:eek: Unison have developed a reputation for being management lackeys and not supporting their members. They sold out the other public sector unions a few years ago on the pensions dispute. I went for a full time job with them once. It's only time I have ever been happy I didn't get selected!

Good HR personnel seem to be a thing of the past too. I had many battles with them and they always appreciated that I was there to represent my member, as I understood they had a job to do. It was never personal, always professional. Unlike now where HR has been devolved to managers who have had no training and are absolutely clueless.
 
Mate, that place is full of the worst sh...ouses around. And I mean FULL of them. From senior management to cleaners, it's weaselsville. :dodgy:

I could write volumes about the subterranean levels of snide that goes on in that place, but I'll just stick with the supervisor...

The same supervisor wanted to give me a disciplinary for taking an agency lad (One of only 3 decent lads there) to the drive through mcdonalds in hunt's cross to get him (The supervisor) a cheeseburger - we got back 5 minutes after the break had ended, because mcdonalds was rammed!

After the supervisor told outright lies which eventually got me sacked from there (Not two months after me mam died) I was told a few weeks later by one of the weasels still working there (A backsliding cocaine-dealing workshy lazy rat who took more time off than the pope's john thomas) that the supervisor was going around saying he fronted me and offered me a straightener!!

So, if anyone lives around the townsend lane area, and knows a fat, bald manc called 'Joeh' (He does NOT like that :)) with half his teeth missing and a ridiculous tongue stud, please be sure to point and laugh at the little fat mess, or better still, just sneer at the meff. And be content in the knowledge that if I ever bump into him...


Similar tale of a mate who works there :

Had a heart attack, which his inhumane shift pattern and " mandatory " overtime was put down as a contributing factor.
When he eventually went back after he done his stint on light duties, he was " punished " by taking him off the skilled job he had been working on for years and effectively given a broom to sweep the floors. He also had his shift pattern changed so that it was the polar opposite of his missus ( who also works shifts ). This meant that his fifteen year old daughter had to effectively look after his nine year old son. He was told that due to production targets they couldn't hold his original position until he came back and had to fill it. Jaguar Land Rover may be a success story, but as far as I can make out its on the back of what can only be described as modern day slavery.
 
Similar tale of a mate who works there :

Had a heart attack, which his inhumane shift pattern and " mandatory " overtime was put down as a contributing factor.
When he eventually went back after he done his stint on light duties, he was " punished " by taking him off the skilled job he had been working on for years and effectively given a broom to sweep the floors. He also had his shift pattern changed so that it was the polar opposite of his missus ( who also works shifts ). This meant that his fifteen year old daughter had to effectively look after his nine year old son. He was told that due to production targets they couldn't hold his original position until he came back and had to fill it. Jaguar Land Rover may be a success story, but as far as I can make out its on the back of what can only be described as modern day slavery.
Very similar up here in the north east with Nissan,. They pay well but own your soul.
 

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