EFC now giving an away credit to people who buy a home cup ticket

[Khalekan]

I can't understand why more people don't complain about away fans buying tickets then selling them on just to keep there credits up.. When I use to go away with England we use to have to sign in over there or send In travel documents to stop people fiddling system

Spot the heck on.

That is how I got a ticket for the last two away games I attended......bought them from a pal who wasn't going that day.

 

[barneygumble]

First thing to give more fans access to away tickets. Great. Oh, 10 away games last season went on general sale? 13 went on sale to any season ticket holder?

Already seemed pretty accessible to me, so why change it?

To screw over non-st holders, that's all i can think!

Don't get me wrong, as a non-st holder, I use someones ST for aways, so doesn't affect me, but they've essentially said that haven't they? 10 went to General Sale, we want 0 going to General!

I reckon they'll scrap it, like the points system, when they realise that it's not worthwhile, and fans who are long distance ST holders, who cant attend every cup game, complain about the bias towards local fans.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

It's a zero cost strategy to increase home cup attendances, nothing more. Given the Board is usually lambasted for its inadequate commercial performance, it is a little odd to be criticising them for potentially increasing gate revenues at zero cost.

For the aways that sell out it just means the qualification criteria gets a little higher, for less popular or accessible aways it means marginally more accessibility.

Well, of course.

I know that. You know that. The majority of fans will recognise that.

So then, why the absolute nonsense to push it through under the guise of increasing accessibility and position it as a genuine step to evenly reward loyalty.

Good nous/commercial move. Home cup ticket sales need boosting, dangle an away ticket credit carrot...

It is what it is.

But as always with Everton - poor execution. From lying about reasoning to justify the change, to no doubt failing to engage with the fan base in anyway prior making these changes.

 

[j77]

Being overly harsh here, the club haven't lied, they admit it's to help boost home cup sales. people moaning probably don't go to any games anyway and just judge from their pc/iPad.

 

[Minimeister]

To screw over non-st holders, that's all i can think!

Don't get me wrong, as a non-st holder, I use someones ST for aways, so doesn't affect me, but they've essentially said that haven't they? 10 went to General Sale, we want 0 going to General!

I reckon they'll scrap it, like the points system, when they realise that it's not worthwhile, and fans who are long distance ST holders, who cant attend every cup game, complain about the bias towards local fans.

Genuinely missing your point here mate but why should non-st holders be rewarded over st holders? And how is it screwing you when you can go to the home cup games anyway?

 

[barneygumble]

Genuinely missing your point here mate but why should non-st holders be rewarded over st holders? And how is it screwing you when you can go to the home cup games anyway?

Ah no, ST deserve priority thoroughly, but the way i'm seeing it is, that the club are making it harder for non-st holders to get away tickets, so they'll cave and buy a Season Ticket.
As for giving an incentive for fans to go to the cup games, it's not like we're not getting good attendances anyway is it? Even at the ludicrous £33 for Europa League last year!

 

[ArtetaMoney]

People should get on the away ladder the same way as everyone else has had to, by going to the aways that are less popular like early KOs at Southampton or Tuesday night TV games at Newcastle. Not by something like Steveange at home in the first round of the cup.

Them always still sell out, or at least nearly sell out. You can't expect people to travel all the way there for a bad seat just to get on the away ladder, if they don't have to.

Plus as others have said its a good way to boost home cup game sales.

 

[Thuck ma Baws]

Them always still sell out, or at least nearly sell out. You can't expect people to travel all the way there for a bad seat just to get on the away ladder, if they don't have to.

Plus as others have said its a good way to boost home cup game sales.

They sell out on general sale. Those should be the games that people use to build their away credits. With the change you could be going into March with people having 4 or 5 away credits having only been to home cup games, and then fancying an away and getting priority over someone who has been to all the home league games and 3 aways. It was fair before.

 

[barneygumble]

They sell out on general sale. Those should be the games that people use to build their away credits. With the change you could be going into March with people having 4 or 5 away credits having only been to home cup games, and then fancying an away and getting priority over someone who has been to all the home league games and 3 aways. It was fair before.

This.

I feel like it's almost guilt tripping fans into buying home cup games, it's alot of money going to Away games, and well, that should be rewarded really. Cup games, as enjoyable as they are, will involve what? 20-30 mins travel for most people, don't get home game against Gillingham can carry the same weight as Southampton away at 12:45!

 

[BoysInBlue]

The idea that this will 'help people get on to the away criteria ladder' is inherently flawed, because I'd suggest the people who currently go to away games always go to home cup games anyway. So they'll get an away credit for home cup attendance, as will people who don't go aways and are struggling to get on the away criteria ladder.

Nobody's going to catch up on anyone. If they're still going to sell tickets to those with ST+8, then ST+6, then ST+4 and so on, the same people will be going to aways. All that will happen is that the criteria will be upped a notch, so instead of, say, Bournemouth away starting on ST+6, it will probably start on ST+8.

Again, the whole thing is a thinly disguised ploy to try to get more people through the Goodison turnstiles for unglamorous home Cup games.

The idea of 'incentives' in itself isn't a bad idea, the way they're doing it and dressing it up is total b.s. though, as it won't really change anything in terms of away ticket availability.

Said it before, what they should be doing is lowering ticket prices to £10 and £5 for cup games, especially in the early rounds. Something like that could get attendances over the 30,000 mark and create some good will.

 

[barneygumble]

The idea that this will 'help people get on to the away criteria ladder' is inherently flawed, because I'd suggest the people who currently go to away games always go to home cup games anyway. So they'll get an away credit for home cup attendance, as will people who don't go aways and are struggling to get on the away criteria ladder.

Nobody's going to catch up on anyone. If they're still going to sell tickets to those with ST+8, then ST+6, then ST+4 and so on, the same people will be going to aways. All that will happen is that the criteria will be upped a notch, so instead of, say, Bournemouth away starting on ST+6, it will probably start on ST+8.

Again, the whole thing is a thinly disguised ploy to try to get more people through the Goodison turnstiles for unglamorous home Cup games.

The idea of 'incentives' in itself isn't a bad idea, the way they're doing it and dressing it up is total b.s. though, as it won't really change anything in terms of away ticket availability.

Said it before, what they should be doing is lowering ticket prices to £10 and £5 for cup games, especially in the early rounds. Something like that could get attendances over the 30,000 mark and create some good will.

Over the last 3-4 years, when the cup fever all of a sudden started to creep back in, We've sold alright to be fair, which is why i'm confused to why the club are doing it.

Only West Ham (which we had 3 days to shift tickets for, on a Tuesday night on TV, in our worst run for years, and extortionate prices) has struggled for attendance, with a modest 22k there, every other one has had high 20's, or 30's going back to the year where we had 22k there for Chelsea in the LC, and lost 2-1. Doesn't make sense to me, but we'll see their motive's i'm sure!

 

[efcfanwirral]

weird situation this - aren't those people who don't go to the home cup games likely to not be season ticket holders? And therefore not be close to eligible unless games go to general sale (which they won't now)? I've given mine up, and there is no chance of going back, and accepted I've given up chances of any away games too, which is a shame considering I live with the two manchester stadiums a mile or so in each direction and still never managed to get to a game at either (watching us lose to those wont be worth a £600 season ticket). This won't change anything at all. I'm likely to go to the cup games anyway, as they are the only competition we have a chance of winning in theory, but it won't get me on the away ladder

 

[Alex Hindmarsh]

I appreciate that this is a way to get some more dough from those nasty low attendance mid week cup matches, and I'm sure everyone does...but I can't help but feel it's pretty unfair on someone who can't make these games because they're in work etc but makes say 3/4 away weekend games, yet someone can pop down to 3/4 cup games on a decent cup run with arguably half the price and hassle, but be in the same credit position.

It benefits Everton financially, and benefits the team in terms of support, but degrades certain fans. And it all depends on what people see the priority as.

 

[MickA]

I can't understand why more people don't complain about away fans buying tickets then selling them on just to keep there credits up.. When I use to go away with England we use to have to sign in over there or send In travel documents to stop people fiddling system

Yeah, near enough every single away last season there were tickets for sale on Twitter etc while they were still being offered to people with the right criteria.