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Unemployed and bored so forgive the stattoness(is that a word). Average league finishes of our Managers since Catterick.

Catterick 7th - Highest 1st Lowest 17th
Bingham 8th - H 4th L 11th
Lee 10th - H 3rd L 19th
Kendal(mk 1) 4th - H 1st L 8th
Harvey 6th - H 4th L 8th
Kendal(mk 2) 11th - H 9th L 13th
Walker 35 games finished 17th
Royle 12th H 6th L 15th
Kendal(mk 3) 17th (one season)
Smith 15th - H13th L 16th
Moyes 7th - H 4th L 17th

Have not counted interim managers
 

dholliday said:
I think most of us have been guilty of underrating the Harvey period while overrating the Royle era. Amazing what a trophy can do to our overall memory.
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Agree that the Royle era is probably judged well because of the FA cup win, but you need to take into acount the squads each manager inherited to really judge it. Harvey took over a pretty decent squad.
 
WA Toffee said:
Agree that the Royle era is probably judged well because of the FA cup win, but you need to take into acount the squads each manager inherited to really judge it. Harvey took over a pretty decent squad.
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Harvey suffered cos of the Euro Ban, he may have inherited a great squad but it was nigh on impossible for him to hold on to it, wasn't the ban for x years to begin with & then extended (or not lifted), I remember that r/s got back in sooner than they should've.
 
dholliday said:
I think most of us have been guilty of underrating the Harvey period while overrating the Royle era. Amazing what a trophy can do to our overall memory.
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I can't see how the Royle era can be overrated. The facts speak for themselves. Keeping a doomed side up, WINNING the FA Cup (not celebrating losing Semi-Finals as if it's some kind of achievement), adding Kanchelskis and finishing 6th the next season.

The following season didn't go to plan and we struggled a little. But man, what more can you ask from a manager in a 2 and a half year period? One season in which we struggled slightly hardly makes his time here overrated, especially considering what he achieved prior to that.
 

I suppose he's a bit like Gordon Lee really Moyes - hard working, dour, achieves respectable finishes but only briefly threatening to win a trophy on one occasion. Even to the extent that each got shut early of a mercurial talent in McKenzie and Rooney (for different reasons) they re similar.

Moyes just needs to start wearing a sheepie and losing his hair.
 
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian said:
Harvey suffered cos of the Euro Ban, he may have inherited a great squad but it was nigh on impossible for him to hold on to it, wasn't the ban for x years to begin with & then extended (or not lifted), I remember that r/s got back in sooner than they should've.
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The ban probably went on for too long. It was 85-90 I think (Didn't Man United with the CWC in 91?)

I doubt it would happen again these days. I can't see UEFA wanting to not have Man United in the Champions League (That being said, most English fans aren't as horrid anymore, save for a handful of thugs who still roam the game)

I'm not sure whether Kendall's Everton would have won the European Cup but I reckon they would have had a decent chance
 
Kendall shows that people who judge a manager's ability solely on league positions achieved under their watch in no way tell the whole story or give a true reflection of said managers ability.
 

deathbyropeandglass said:
Kendall shows that people who judge a manager's ability solely on league positions achieved under their watch in no way tell the whole story or give a true reflection of said managers ability.
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Correct average 4th doesn't even come close to illustrating 2 titles , FA Cup and a ECWC
 
As I stated, just bored. Agree the stats dont really reflect the impact of the ones that won stuff. Catterick for instance had three bad seasons(his last 3) which is an injustice to his overall record.
 
Essex Blue said:
I can't see how the Royle era can be overrated. The facts speak for themselves. Keeping a doomed side up, WINNING the FA Cup (not celebrating losing Semi-Finals as if it's some kind of achievement), adding Kanchelskis and finishing 6th the next season.

The following season didn't go to plan and we struggled a little. But man, what more can you ask from a manager in a 2 and a half year period? One season in which we struggled slightly hardly makes his time here overrated, especially considering what he achieved prior to that.
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I loved Joe Royle and really enjoyed winning the cup and finishing 6th.

However he had financial backing Moyes could only dream of.

He signed Duncan Ferguson (most expensive British player ever at one point), Barrett, Kanchelskis (Man Utd top scorer the season before), Short (most expensive defender in Britain at the point we signed him), Gary Speed and Nick Barmby (our record signing) all within 18 months.

He had the same net spend in less than 2 years in charge in the 1990's than Moyes has in a decade and still finished at best where Moyes has on average.
 
dholliday said:
I think most of us have been guilty of underrating the Harvey period while overrating the Royle era. Amazing what a trophy can do to our overall memory.
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That is unfair on Joe.

The season he finished 15th he never got the job until October/November and we were already bottom of the league.....he had a mountain to climb and a 15th finish was beyond our hopes at the stage he came in.

I'd love to see a PL table based as if the season started the day of Joe's first game in 94/95. I'd say we'd be well up it.
 

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