Do We Need A New Stadium?

[deliverance]

Goodison has seen better days but I love the place and I'm all for phased improvement.

I don't get the mysterious "cure all ills" that some attach to building a brand new stadium, look at Arsenal they've got worse if anything. Goodison doesn't reach capacity anymore and the 50k+ capacity stadium oft quoted seems ludicrous given the past couple of decades.

We are in decline on and off the pitch our average attendance will be circa 33k this year showing a steady decline from 39k at 2004, and recent derby capers care of Moyes ensures a further trenche of supporters saying "thanks but no thanks you clown".

The idea not building one prevents the sale of the club is a red herring from Kenwright and his primates, Man City don't even OWN a stadium.The truth is the retail park consortium desperately desired by him and his mafia gives THEM more profit, which I understand that's business, as long as the interests of the club are looked after.

look at this list have any of them really changed because of having a new stadium?

Leicester
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Bolton
Derby
Southampton
Coventry
Cardiff
Hull
Arsenal

It is cart before the horse, a complete fallacy.

Goodison needs improving but a new stadium? Just a mill stone round the neck.

 

[ijjysmith]

Yes...

 

[neil999]

Goodison has seen better days but I love the place and I'm all for phased improvement.

I don't get the mysterious "cure all ills" that some attach to building a brand new stadium, look at Arsenal they've got worse if anything. Goodison doesn't reach capacity anymore and the 50k+ capacity stadium oft quoted seems ludicrous given the past couple of decades.

We are in decline on and off the pitch our average attendance will be circa 33k this year showing a steady decline from 39k at 2004, and recent derby capers care of Moyes ensures a further trenche of supporters saying "thanks but no thanks you clown".

The idea not building one prevents the sale of the club is a red herring from Kenwright and his primates, Man City don't even OWN a stadium.The truth is the retail park consortium desperately desired by him and his mafia gives THEM more profit, which I understand that's business, as long as the interests of the club are looked after.

look at this list have any of them really changed because of having a new stadium?

Leicester
Sunderland
Middlesbrough
Bolton
Derby
Southampton
Coventry
Cardiff
Hull
Arsenal

It is cart before the horse, a complete fallacy.

Goodison needs improving but a new stadium? Just a mill stone round the neck.

i really dont know anything about football finance(others on here do, or claim too)you make a good point with that list tho..

 

[Holden]

Isn't it more about the stadium complex rather than the stadium itself (eg Kirby)? So retail/corporate brings in the profit, which brings in the investors and therefore money for players? Still, interesting list like you say.

 

[Muggins]

I heard we need rapid transit trains to make this happen. Is that right?

 

[toffeejack]

i reckon bill should lower the ticket prices and see bigger attendances, he make make more money that way the noob

 

[peteblue]

I heard we need rapid transit trains to make this happen. Is that right?

Yes, the right transport policy will transform the club to an ECL dominating team......

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Choo-choooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

 

[efcforever]

Yes...

sums it up to be honest.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

Isn't it more about the stadium complex rather than the stadium itself (eg Kirby)? So retail/corporate brings in the profit, which brings in the investors and therefore money for players? Still, interesting list like you say.

This, we don't really have that at Goodison, which is one of the main reasons for moving, it'd be possible to redevelop Goodison, as per the building that was planned for the car park, but anything larger and we'd have to start knocking down the surrounding houses and school, so it'd be easier to move.

 

[bluejock]

I heard we need rapid transit trains to make this happen. Is that right?

Can Goat be the Fat Controller?

 

[Saliba]

No, Goodison is a state of the art facility, worthy of housing a Premier League team. In fact, it's so good it should be hosting Champions League finals not to mention World Cup Finals.....

...lol jks i'm not smoking crack.

 

[toffeeben15]

id prefer we didnt have a new stadium . new stadiums are ****e for atomsphere and when goodison is rocking it does sound great because of its old structure. is there anyway of taking the steel posts out and and filling corners of the park end / away end in

 

[Degs62]

Yes...

This.

 

[ToffeeBlueNose]

we do, we have to move into the modern world and realise that corporate boxes are needed and better facilities in general. It still would be a sad day to leave her behind though.