Dementia & Alzheimer's warning to people who have parents or in-laws with this -

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Joey66 said:
That's when my MP will get involved ...... you are spot on it's never their fault they missed my adrenal gland tumour on an MRI scan with dye in it - my surgeon told me put a complaint in - I went down the legal route total waste of time 3 years just to get an apology ..... an 18-month delay of serious high blood pressure which has caused kidney disease stage 3 - waste of time .......
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Thinking of you Joey, I the midst of it all with my parents and mum in law, all in their eighties with their different problems, my dad had a fall and is in hospital, he has a badly bruised hip but it seems to have triggered urinary/blood infections and they've now upgraded him to type 1 diabetes.
He is my mum's carer so I've contacted social services to assist my mum, fair enough they got in touch with me after a couple of days but they can't say when they'll be out to assess her.
I hope for you and your family's sake your mum in law's situation is resolved sooner rather than later and that you get yourself sorted, we're always here for a man of your standing, sending a big cyber hug to you mate.
 
Prevenger17 said:
Awful to hear Joey, absolutely gutted for you. This will be of no consolation, but from my experience of working in a hospital, nurses and doctors, who are often specialised in one area of nursing or medicine, have no idea how to manage and help someone with acute geriatric or pscyhiatric issues.

This is especially pronounced when worlds cross over, such as when an elderly patient with dementia ends up in A&E where most of the staff are emergency care specialists. They often simply don't have the tools, training or knowledge to effectively deal with things that exist beyond their own day to day wheelhouse.

During the recession, I worked on a surgical ward, but bed and staff shortages meant that medical and geriatric cases started landing in unsuitable wards while they waited for a more appropriate bed to open up. I worked in geriatric and psychogeriatric care for most of my time in that hospital so I was very comfortable with it, but the nurses there knew no more about the delicate nature of managing a patient with Alzheimers than I knew how to prep a patient for stomach surgery. These were often otherwise great nurses who simply didn't have the experience outside of their own specialism.

I don't say this to excuse anyone, and I hope you get the clarity and justice you deserve. Just to say that nurses and doctors are often overstretched and overworked in a very imperfect system that already requires a lot more of them than they are physically and mentally able to give.

Fingers crossed for you and your family Joey
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I accept all of that post, but covid is the killer here as my wife would have been with the ambulance to make sure they knew her history etc & I am positive the fall may not have happened .... a broken hip, a broken wrist, & broken toe to an 88-year-old lady - is far too traumatic for any quality of life - they will blame everone but themselves I am waiting for that.....
 
Wizard said:
Really sorry to hear this Joey. Hope she comes through alright. Is she at the Royal out of interest? I don’t live in Liverpool but most of my family do and we’ve had some horrible experiences there with my grandparents and most recently my uncle
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Sorry to hear about your experiences there mate; careless staff can and will leave a deeply negative impression.

I feel I need to offer a counter experience which I hope you don't take the wrong way but is intentioned to be more indicative of the Royal as a whole, rather than some bad turds.

I've wrote and re-wrote several different versions of this line but the crux is there were several nurses there who were unbelievable when my old man was on his death bed. Next time I'm home I'm taking a floral bouquet to them.
 

Tommy. said:
Sorry to hear about your experiences there mate; careless staff can and will leave a deeply negative impression.

I feel I need to offer a counter experience which I hope you don't take the wrong way but is intentioned to be more indicative of the Royal as a whole, rather than some bad turds.

I've wrote and re-wrote several different versions of this line but the crux is there were several nurses there who were unbelievable when my old man was on his death bed. Next time I'm home I'm taking a floral bouquet to them.
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We had a letter today that their investigation has been held up by Covid ......that I suppose is the outcome of the investigation etc ......blame it on Covid .......we are not after money just the best continuous health care for an 88 year old lady who went insight a heart condition, & in A&E was left to break her hip, her wrist plus a toe.....
 
Joey66 said:
Unbelievable they tried to move her today when she can't even get out of bed on her own - the person responsible - the bed officer - she got told in no uncertain terms we would get on to an MP ..... she backed down .....
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We experienced the bed officer when my Mum was terminally ill. They wanted to move her to a surgical ward. We said no. They quoted the bed officer. We asked to speak to the bed officer, got told it wasn't actually a person it was more of a team. We asked could we speak to a member of the team then to discuss moving Mum. Could we have a name of somebody. They fudged a bit, said there was nobody available. We asked when would they be available. More prevarication and not wanting to give us an answer. Eventually the ward sister agreed not to move Mum when we persisted in asking for the name of the bed officer. Unless you have actually seen the mysterious bed officer, I don't believe they exist!
 
anjelikaferrett said:
We experienced the bed officer when my Mum was terminally ill. They wanted to move her to a surgical ward. We said no. They quoted the bed officer. We asked to speak to the bed officer, got told it wasn't actually a person it was more of a team. We asked could we speak to a member of the team then to discuss moving Mum. Could we have a name of somebody. They fudged a bit, said there was nobody available. We asked when would they be available. More prevarication and not wanting to give us an answer. Eventually the ward sister agreed not to move Mum when we persisted in asking for the name of the bed officer. Unless you have actually seen the mysterious bed officer, I don't believe they exist!
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45 minutes on our telephone today - my wife asked was she medically trained err no - so she got told in no uncertain way No - my wife will let the concerns team know at 9am after leaving a curt message on their answer phone - she has stayed in her bed - that's all they wanted .......
 
anjelikaferrett said:
We experienced the bed officer when my Mum was terminally ill. They wanted to move her to a surgical ward. We said no. They quoted the bed officer. We asked to speak to the bed officer, got told it wasn't actually a person it was more of a team. We asked could we speak to a member of the team then to discuss moving Mum. Could we have a name of somebody. They fudged a bit, said there was nobody available. We asked when would they be available. More prevarication and not wanting to give us an answer. Eventually the ward sister agreed not to move Mum when we persisted in asking for the name of the bed officer. Unless you have actually seen the mysterious bed officer, I don't believe they exist!
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From my missus.

They do exist and it`s possibly one of the most stressful jobs in the hospital.

She said that she has no idea, how the person(s) in overall charge actually cope, as it`s the pressure on releasing and and finding beds, is just relentless.
 

Joey66 said:
Unbelievable they tried to move her today when she can't even get out of bed on her own - the person responsible - the bed officer - she got told in no uncertain terms we would get on to an MP ..... she backed down .....
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Don`t take it personally mate, your mum in law, will been one of many they tried to move today, with it being a Monday, as they try to juggle the " available " beds.
 
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