David Moyes and the current climate in the transfer market

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Everton's transfer dealings of the summer just gone have been discussed again and again but I thought I'd perhaps give a different slant on it than has been brought up before.

The transfer market last summer was unlike any other in living memory in terms of money changing hands between clubs and player valuations, a situation brought about by the crazed spending of Manchester City and Real Madrid in a large way.
Both clubs warping the market and valuations of different players and adding worth to aspects such as the age and nationality of players.

So perhaps this current market is a market to sell players in and not to buy in?
Arsene Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson - the two greatest managers in our league (perhaps the world) - have identified this and acted accordingly, unlike many managers like Benitez.
Man Utd sold the most valuable player in the world (Cristiano Rondaldo) for a record fee and didn't spend nearly any of the money gained in the same transfer window. Instead investing the money in several young players who will ensure quality in their ranks for years to come and in the short term made the shrewd signing of Michael Owen, a proven goalscorer in this league and at international level with a wealth of experience to add depth to the squad, for free.
Arsene Wenger sold one of his longest serving players in Kolo Toure and top striker in Emannuel Adebayor for huge fee's and brought in a clever signing in Thomas Vermaelen.

To the untrained eye, they sold key players and didn't replace them but in hindsight they have strengthened their squad on the whole and now have a huge transfer fund for future purchases, when the market rights itself again.

I think Moyes also see's this but given the difference in situations, did not have the luxary of a squad big enough to get by without adding numbers.
As is officially on record from Robert Elstone, Moyes' original plan last summer was to keep hold of all of his players (going so far as to reject a significant offer for Saha) and bring in: Philipe Senderos, Fabian Delph, Kyle Naughton and Rasmus Elm. 4 young players for modest prices, adding numbers and long term quality and potential to the squad.
Of course Everton fell foul of one of the monsters warping the market in Man City and were put in a position where one of our key players forced a transfer away from the club.
In response - adding to the fact many of his original transfer targets didn't result in moves - Moyes changed his tact.
He sold Lescott for a huge fee but rather than sit on the money he spread it around the squad accordingly and though painfully done, ended up with a squad (when all fit) is much stronger than last season's or in fact any other squad under his reign.

Out - Lescott, 24 million.

In - Distin: Like for like replacement for the outgoing player with a wealth of experience and a perfect short term remedy for a fraction of the money, 5 million.
In - Bilyaletdinov: International class winger and long term target who adds a new dimension to the team with his play, expert at set pieces and a natural winger, 10 million.
In - Jo: A young and talented striker (if unpolished) eager to play for the club who adds depth to the striking department in the squad and for little to no outlay, Loan.
In - Heitinga: International defender with excellent versatility who can play in a couple of positions and adds more quality to the squad, 6 million.
In - Neill: A surprise addition of an international captain and versatile defender who adds much needed depth to the squad with a wealth of experience in this league and also requires little to no settling in period due to his personal connections already in the squad.

David Moyes though unable to sell and sit on the profit like his Arsenal and Man Utd counterparts, did better in this transfer market than many of his peers and resulted in a strong squad of players with several different options rather than what he had the season before, a team of 14 strong players but little in the way of depth behind that.

Of course due to injuries this season (which are substantial and have already been covered at length) have prevented us from seeing the true quality of this full squad. However once we start to regain all our players and look to finally have a full strength squad once again, I think we'll see the true quality of Everton and perhaps go on a run such as last season in the later part of this season, storming the European placement make up at a late hour, proving that though the league is much tighter, Everton are still a force in the division and should not be written off simply because we've had to get by thus far in stormy waters with a badly makeshift and patched up ship.

The bigger issue of whether the the market is a selling not buying market which is set to calm down is yet to be seen, but with Wenger and Ferguson acting in a way which suggests it is and Benitez acting in a way which suggests he's blind to it... would you really bet against it being true? :P

Thanks if you read through all of that, I'm not especially short winded and I know that was a bit of a meaty post, but I hope it was of some interest to any who read it. (y)
 
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Mate, here's where you went wrong imo: you see a coherent plan where most others see chaos. We operate year to to year on a wing and a prayer. That's regardless of current fashions and trends in the transfer market.
 
Mate, here's where you went wrong imo: you see a coherent plan where most others see chaos. We operate year to to year on a wing and a prayer. That's regardless of current fashions and trends in the transfer market.

The way we operate regarding time is far from ideal but I do have more respect for the ability of our manager than to think he works without planning.
I'm sure he would like to work a lot quicker in the transfer market (like the summer we brought in Howard, Johnson and Lescott before any other club had hardly made a move) but the timing aspect will probably have something to do with those above him at the club and the method in which they grant him funds.
 
Nice post mate, this transfer window prove to be the most successful in terms of adding footballing quality to our side.
We are now closer to top 4 than ever, at least on paper. If we can add banega and vdv we'll definitely break into it.
 
I don't know if it was good luck, as Dave says, or good management, as you imply. But I do agree with you on what the end result is. Our squad is the strongest (on paper) we've had under Moyes. If (and it may be a big if) our key players recover (and maintain) full fitness and form, we can still salvage something from this campaign.
Great post anyhow and welcome to the forum.

If you're as clear thinking on food and sex as you obviously are on footie, you'll go a long way here. Have some positive rep
 

Nice post mate, this transfer window prove to be the most successful in terms of adding footballing quality to our side.
We are now closer to top 4 than ever, at least on paper. If we can add banega and vdv we'll definitely break into it.

Either of those would be great additions though I'm not holding my breath on VDV, the whole rumour sounds a bit too fantasy to me at the minute.

Banega is the only player however I can think of at the minute who I want to add to our squad next summer. Of course I want us to add more and more players each off-season but he is the only one I can think of specifically right now who I'd make a priority.
More names will become apparant in the summer though no doubt.
 
Great post Tez.

Moyes seems to have been focusing much attention on building for the future with a number of academy signings and young players like the two americans. Wenger, an example you have used is the master of this - you only have to look at when they play in the Carling Cup, there reserve and youth side is phenomenal.

If it means us waiting another 3, 4 or 5 years too see true quality and great youngsters, i am willing to wait. I think Moyes and his backroom staff are trying to deliver this.
 
Solid post, Tez.

I don't think VDV will come to Everton as well - some other club with more cash will easily swoop in for him especially if there is any sort of bidding auction - it will get too expensive for Everton.

Banega is still a pipe dream IMO - don't see him coming either.

We're all a long way from January and Everton will be a much different side when players return. If Moyes can figure out how to play Arteta, Pienaar, Billy, Neville, Cahill, Rodwell and Fellaini all in the same MF, Everton may not be shopping for a MF.

Reconvene at Christmas and I think we'll all have new perspective on what is needed, if anything.

Well done - on to good things here, Tez. Some love for you.
 
Great post Tez.

Moyes seems to have been focusing much attention on building for the future with a number of academy signings and young players like the two americans. Wenger, an example you have used is the master of this - you only have to look at when they play in the Carling Cup, there reserve and youth side is phenomenal.

If it means us waiting another 3, 4 or 5 years too see true quality and great youngsters, i am willing to wait. I think Moyes and his backroom staff are trying to deliver this.

Thanks mate (y).

I think with the years at Everton David Moyes has matured as a manager and with recent comments about wanting to build what SAF has at Man Utd at Everton, I think he's here for a long time and is looking to build a legacy.

Moyes now has a squad of players he wants in the majority and is now looking to embedd his signature and high quality throughout the club for a long term vision and add one or two players to his main squad every year to add more depth or replace aging players. As well as bringing through home grown talent such as Rodwell and Baxter each year.
 
To be fair some of moyes signing are stop gap and need to be replace in 3yrs time.
And seriously I dont see us able to produce quality kids like Arsenal unless we change our youth coach.
 

Just a tip mate, that Davek cat is our residence pessimist, here to bring balance as were bad hippies.

But like Oscar on the Street, were found of him. Goat's big bird the annoying fat fool.

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Can we lay off the fat jokes please, I only ate 5 Mars Bars last night FFS.

Chico is a mega melt.


Good post Tezzy. Not sure I agree with what your saying tho, we sold Lescott cos we had to sell Lescott, I guess the proof in the pudding is if we buy anybody in January. Thats when we find out the truth about our original transfer fund.

And just cos I hate him, Kenwrong OUT.
 
I agree that selling Lescott was never a planned eventuality but what I'm saying is perhaps Moyes' behaviour in the market both before and after his transfer was a result of the current climate. (Made even more important considering we have little to no money).

I wouldn't agree that if we don't sign anyone in January it means there never was money available but that's assuming we won't need to sign anyone in January with a fit squad.
If our situation is similar to how it is now regarding injuries come the winter transfer window and no funds for new players materialises I'll agree.
But should we be inactive in January and then go on to cry poverty next summer too then it'll be apparant something is again amiss at boardroom level.
 

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