manxtoffee
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Not sure what you're getting at, but lets be honest, neither are great players..People are unfair on both him and Hibbert. Both are great players and if they left we would miss them alot.
I agree to some extent that both players bring something useful to the side, for example Hibbo can actually put a decent ball into the box while many others can't and he will score a 40 yard screamer before he retires..
Pip having learned a thing or two from his days at Utd offers quite good organisation, hence the pointing skills.