Criticising players coming back from injury

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Lukaku had his toe / foot problem what ever it actually was. He will get cut a lot more slack when off form if he puts in a decent shift, gets stuck in, gives it a bit of Stracq. All he is at the moment is a slightly better rich man's Anichebe

Think there is another discussion on that elsewhere on the site lol

But there was a lot of stick given to him at the start of the season before they even told us about the injury. Until the lad starts missing chances he should be scoring every time then i'm happy to let it slide whilst he is young.
 

Lukaku had his toe / foot problem what ever it actually was. He will get cut a lot more slack when off form if he puts in a decent shift, gets stuck in, gives it a bit of Stracq. All he is at the moment is a slightly better rich man's Anichebe

What on earth?

Popcorn?
 
I don't think it matters. I mean,

A lad: "Barry's been crap this season."
A lid: "But yeah mate but he's been injured."
Lad: "Yeah mate yeah but he's been crap tho."
Lid: "Injured tho mate."
Lad: "Yeah but still crap tho mate."
Lid: "Yeah but injured."
Lad: "We should melt his body in a furnace and then put the liquid into little Gareth Barry ice cube trays mate, for Christmas Baileys."
Lid: "Yeah but give him another week tho mate."
Lad: "No mate."

If we read this in the context of Beckettian absurdism, which I think we should, we can see clearly that language itself is an imperfect and imprecise tool of representation, ultimately futile and merely a distraction from the looming finitude of life.
deep tha lad
 
Think there is another discussion on that elsewhere on the site lol

But there was a lot of stick given to him at the start of the season before they even told us about the injury. Until the lad starts missing chances he should be scoring every time then i'm happy to let it slide whilst he is young.

Nah mate, habits, especially 'bad' are easy to get into, but are harder to get out of the longer you persist in them.

Yes he will probably score 15 this season

But if he ( and others as well it must be said...yes Roberto even you ) pull finger. He will get 22ish and drag the others along with him, up to who knows where.
 

Nah mate, habits, especially 'bad' are easy to get into, but are harder to get out of the longer you persist in them.

Yes he will probably score 15 this season

But if he ( and others as well it must be said...yes Roberto even you ) pull finger. He will get 22ish and drag the others along with him, up to who knows where.

for my 2 cents as stated elsewhere, he needs the service and the team dont do that. We cross the ball so much from out wide and score far less with lukaku than if we look to set up and put him through. There seems to be two main types of goals he scores and thats 6 yard box poacher, and running in on the keeper. Yet we rarely set up to create those chances, especially with a naismith/eto'o mirallas to create the space.

But then its been discussed to death already so nothing more i can add that is insightful lol
 
for my 2 cents as stated elsewhere, he needs the service and the team dont do that. We cross the ball so much from out wide and score far less with lukaku than if we look to set up and put him through. There seems to be two main types of goals he scores and thats 6 yard box poacher, and running in on the keeper. Yet we rarely set up to create those chances, especially with a naismith/eto'o mirallas to create the space.

But then its been discussed to death already so nothing more i can add that is insightful lol

exactly... feed the Rom and he will score
 
Yup. There's a lot of knee-jerkers on here, blessed with short memories and an inability to accept certain truths.

For instance take Gareth Barry - he had a great season last year and when the discussions on here turned to "Should we sign him permanently" we had dozens of posters clamouring for him. Some of us sounded a note of caution and pointed out that his age, combined with the fact he was never blessed with pace to begin with, meant that IF we signed him we would have to manage him carefully and not simply play him in every game. We were shouted down.

Lo and behold, too many minutes in too many games without sufficient rotation has caused Barry problems, and the same posters who insisted he was a nailed on starter for three years are now asking for him to be banished. The true problem of course is Gibson's inability to stay fit (another valid observation shouted down by the masses) and provide the necessary cover to rotate with Barry.

There is a massive blind spot on this forum for many posters when it comes to succession planning: look at the LB spot for evidence of that. People would rather simply play Baines there until he drops dead, rather than accept that he will inevitably decline as he ages and therefore start making alternative plans with the two promising understudies (Oviedo and Garbutt) currently on our books.

As for the players you named, I've not seen any real criticism of Coleman or Barkley; those wetting the bed about Lukaku are allowing his price to influence their opinion too much; the criticism of Pienaar is slightly more warranted, but it's interesting that the ultimate cause of his decline (age) is acknowledged in his instance but ignored when the likes of Barry are mentioned.
You seem to be implying that a combination of age and playing time have caused Barry's recent drop in form, surely the fact he had two bad tackles on the same ankle days apart had more of an effect? Perhaps he should of been rested to avoid aggravating the injury but that Gomez tackle would likely have caused anyone who received it to be out for a while regardless of their fitness. Lack of rotation seems to have caused McCarthy more problems than Barry tbh.
 
I don't think it matters. I mean,

A lad: "Barry's been crap this season."
A lid: "But yeah mate but he's been injured."
Lad: "Yeah mate yeah but he's been crap tho."
Lid: "Injured tho mate."
Lad: "Yeah but still crap tho mate."
Lid: "Yeah but injured."
Lad: "We should melt his body in a furnace and then put the liquid into little Gareth Barry ice cube trays mate, for Christmas Baileys."
Lid: "Yeah but give him another week tho mate."
Lad: "No mate."

If we read this in the context of Beckettian absurdism, which I think we should, we can see clearly that language itself is an imperfect and imprecise tool of representation, ultimately futile and merely a distraction from the looming finitude of life.

Do you want fries with that?
 
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