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CONCACAF footballers in Europe

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Never have had quite as much success over here as the South Americans or the Africans but there's a few to consider.

In terms of CL winners, you've only got Dwight Yorke who won it once with Man U and Rafael Marquez who win it once with Barca.

Javier Hernandez started in a CL final for Man U but Barca thrashed them.

Hugo Sanchez won a UEFA Cup, which isn't bad. And also five spanish leagues in a row while scoring more goals then you can possibly count. And dempsey came on as a sub in the europea league final for fulham which they lost. And Wagner and Dooley were unused subs when schalke won it, Dooley in particular having had a half decent career in germany but nothing too special.

Julio Valdes, probably panama's greatest player, won the cup winners cup with PSG and scored plenty in france, italy and spain.

And that's it in terms of continental success. (Jovan Kirovski was at dortmund when they won the CL but he wasn't even in the squad for the final, the semis or the quarters. He only played twenty minutes coming off the bench in two group games for that whole campaign.)

Owen Hargreaves won two CL's of course, but is a splitter who doesn't play for his birth country. Likewise John Barnes, Luther Blissett, Giuseppe Rossi, Lilian Thuram, Florent Malouda, Cyrille Regis, Clarence Seedorf, Jimmy Hasselbaink, Gerard Janvion, Jocelyn Angloma, Marius Tresor, Ted Parry, De Guzman etc, etc all played internationally for european teams.

In terms of domestic success Marquez and Sanchez both won the La Liga. Dooley and Paul Stalteri won the bundesliga. David Suazo won Serie A. And Hernandez and Yorke won the prem. Tim Howard won the FA Cup, one of a handful of americans to play in the final. Julian Sturgis, Terry Springthorpe and John Harkes being the others. Harkes, Kasey Keller, Jamie Lawrence, Frank Sinclair and Brad Freidel all won league cups too, if you consider that important.

In Scotland there's a few more success stories, because it's scotland. Gerry Baker, Maurice Edu, Shelton Martis, Carlos Bocanegra, Jack Cowan, Claudio Reyna, Joe Kennaway, Jerren Nixon, Nick Dasovic, DaMarcus Beasley, Emilio Izaguirre etc, etc. And you'll find the same in other crap leagues probably, the likes of Radzinski tearing up Belgium and oviedo and ruiz doing well in denmark and holland.

And then there's players who have scored plenty of goals in the big european leagues but never won anything in them. Just in England there's Paulo Wanchope, Mcbride, Dempsey, Wegerle, Kenwyne Jones, Lindy Delapenha, Euell, Earle, etc. Magico Gonzalez scored a fair few in Spain for relegation fodder sides.

And before long you're talking about the likes of Palacios or Donovan who played a bit in europe but never really did anything.

Really, if you're talking real success there's only marquez, yorke and sanchez. Of the three Sanchez was probably the best but Yorke had, imo, the better career. That CL win counts for a lot.
 

That generation of the French West Indians is absolutely outrageous. You've got Henry, Nelks, Saha and Gallas in there as well if you allow nationality by parents.

Anyway, I'd go with Sanchez personally. You can put weight on Yorke's CL, but Sanchez's goal scoring record takes some beating. I think if you asked the fans of both clubs, far more would hail Sanchez as a legend in Madrid than would Yorke in Manchester.
 
That generation of the French West Indians is absolutely outrageous. You've got Henry, Nelks, Saha and Gallas in there as well if you allow nationality by parents.

Anyway, I'd go with Sanchez personally. You can put weight on Yorke's CL, but Sanchez's goal scoring record takes some beating. I think if you asked the fans of both clubs, far more would hail Sanchez as a legend in Madrid than would Yorke in Manchester.

Sure but that's not always the best judge.

I mean, I personally think that Rooney has had more success at man U then Cantona, given the relative strength of the league then vs now and the way Rooney's Man U has done much better in europe.

But you would never find a Man U fan who'd argue Wayne was the bigger legend, because Cantona set them on a path of success while Rooney walked into a team that was already relentless winners.
 

Sure but that's not always the best judge.

I mean, I personally think that Rooney has had more success at man U then Cantona, given the relative strength of the league then vs now and the way Rooney's Man U has done much better in europe.

But you would never find a Man U fan who'd argue Wayne was the bigger legend, because Cantona set them on a path of success while Rooney walked into a team that was already relentless winners.

I agree about Yorke. He was a very, very good player for a time at every level. Him and Cole where as good as you'd see around Europe in that successful period they had.

I think only Fergusons falling out with him stops him being revered in Manchester. even that said he was a major reason they won the CL after a long, long period so I imagine he's well liked.
 

Have to remember with Yorke as well that he had one of the finest midfields English football has ever seen supplying him with chances. That Cole, Sheringham and Solskaer all enjoyed fine scoring records during that period suggests it wasn't purely down to Yorke's talents (fine though they were).

So it's Hugo Sanchez all the way for me.
 
Have to remember with Yorke as well that he had one of the finest midfields English football has ever seen supplying him with chances. That Cole, Sheringham and Solskaer all enjoyed fine scoring records during that period suggests it wasn't purely down to Yorke's talents (fine though they were).

So it's Hugo Sanchez all the way for me.

It's not like he played in a team of bums either Bruce.
 
It's not like he played in a team of bums either Bruce.

Oh, for sure, but compare his record with that of say Butragueño, who played for Real at the same time. Emilio scored every 2.77 games, whilst Hugo scored every 1.26

Yorke had two really strong seasons for United, scoring 52 times in 98 games, but Cole was almost identical, with 46 in 95.

So even though both Real and United had good sides, Sanchez did much better than his strike partner (who was no mug), whereas Yorke didn't really.
 
Oh, for sure, but compare his record with that of say Butragueño, who played for Real at the same time. Emilio scored every 2.77 games, whilst Hugo scored every 1.26

Yorke had two really strong seasons for United, scoring 52 times in 98 games, but Cole was almost identical, with 46 in 95.

So even though both Real and United had good sides, Sanchez did much better than his strike partner (who was no mug), whereas Yorke didn't really.

Plus, the big argument for Yorke is that CL win but Sanchez on the whole did better in europe then Yorke. He scored a lot more CL goals in a lot less games for a start and he won the Uefa Cup and then reached three consequtive CL semis with Real.

But the fact he could never get them past the semis counts against him, for me. Sanchez was certainly the better player but Yorke will be more satisfied with his career, imo, while Hugo has stuff missing on his cv. I think he'd have that CL regret, still.
 
Oh, for sure, but compare his record with that of say Butragueño, who played for Real at the same time. Emilio scored every 2.77 games, whilst Hugo scored every 1.26

Yorke had two really strong seasons for United, scoring 52 times in 98 games, but Cole was almost identical, with 46 in 95.

So even though both Real and United had good sides, Sanchez did much better than his strike partner (who was no mug), whereas Yorke didn't really.

Good points but I'd argue that Yorke was more the 'link man' where cole was out and out goalscorer which makes outscoring him remarkable. Don't forget he'd even dropped back onto midfield towards his end.
 

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