Clubs selling Home grown talent

Pootsy · March 11, 2015

We are 16th on the list of clubs who have generated income by selling home grown talent since 2012 with Victor Anichebe, Jack Rodwell and Shane Duffy pocketing the club with just shy of £24m. Southampton have come out on top at £90.1m

Should we be looking to bring in youth a bit quicker in an effort to sell them on to help rebuild the squad and or facilitate debt repayment or new stadium costs?

Link is here : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Real-Madrid-Barcelona-Manchester-United.html

Ashtonian · March 11, 2015

bring them in at 16 i say.

noone will buy them for much and we will get relegated quicker than we are now but sure.

Truth is only the home grown players who are proven premier league performers will go for huge amounts of money. Occasionally you get a luke shaw callum chambers situation but mostly only the bigger money goes on ones that the buying team know they are signing someone who can do a job.

sageyefc · March 11, 2015

The tv deal means we should never need to sell promising youth to raise money

Also, all that list proves is that teams have massively overpaid for southamptons players

gatopreto · March 11, 2015

Black cat here. Don't think we got enough for Jordan Henderson off your neighbours. When it comes to selling players, regardless of the player, it comes down to how well you replace them.
I remember someone getting laughed at in a pub (from black n white scum) circa 2011 for saying Henderson is better than rodwell.

Khalekan · March 11, 2015

sageyefc said:
The tv deal means we should never need to sell promising youth to raise money

Also, all that list proves is that teams have massively overpaid for southamptons players

Selling youth players is not a good sign.

Much better to nurture the kids and see them make the grade with you.

Say we had got £40 million for Ross ........that would rocket us up that oarticular table but we wouldn't have our brightest prospect (current form notwithstanding)

Eggs · March 11, 2015

....you can only bring them through if they're good enough. Sell them on if it's good business.

Groucho · March 11, 2015

Eggs said:
....you can only bring them through if they're good enough. Sell them on if it's good business.

But keep them if they're good players and benefit the side, regardless of price.

Jack Rodwell, I agree with selling for example. Wayne Rooney I'd have kept regardless of fee.

Dutch Toffee · March 11, 2015

gatopreto said:
Black cat here. Don't think we got enough for Jordan Henderson off your neighbours. When it comes to selling players, regardless of the player, it comes down to how well you replace them.
I remember someone getting laughed at in a pub (from black n white scum) circa 2011 for saying Henderson is better than rodwell.

I would have laughed at that tbh when Rodwell first broke through. Have to admit I got that one wrong.

Eric Djemba-Djemba · March 11, 2015

selling Rodwell for 15m was incredible business. He's a sick note and not even that good.

Groucho · March 11, 2015

Eric Djemba-Djemba said:
selling Rodwell for 15m was incredible business. He's a sick note and not even that good.

They paid for potential

Little Ralphy · March 11, 2015

Eric Djemba-Djemba said:
selling Rodwell for 15m was incredible business. He's a sick note and not even that good.

Moyes ruined Rodwell. If Rodwell came through under Martinez he may have been a star. Moyes took the brightest English talent at centre back for years and turned him in to a midfielder because he didn’t trust him to play out from the back. Rodwell was more highly rated than Stones as a teenage defender with Chelsea offering £1m for him when he was only 14. Obviously there is no guarantee he’d have made it as a defender but to think he didn’t start playing in midfield until he broke in to the first team is crazy.

I also wonder if developing physically as a defender all your life, in which the game is more limited in the movements needed and how you are involved in the game, then causes issues when you are suddenly thrust in to a midfield role which is more 360 and dynamic when you are at your most vulnerable physically. When gerrard came through at the rs, he played a lot at right back, because he suffered injuries etc. and right back was less demanding on certain areas of the body, but he was actually a midfielder anyway. Most footballers tend to work backwards on the pitch as they progress through the levels, not the other way around.

In terms of the thread and selling youngsters, I agree I think we should be keeping our best youngsters and only selling them on if they’re not good enough for our first team.

edited to remove the obvious faux pas :blush:

Pat's Van · March 11, 2015

stevie g FFS

Del · March 11, 2015

Little Ralphy said:
Moyes ruined Rodwell. If Rodwell came through under Martinez he may have been a star. Moyes took the brightest English talent at centre back for years and turned him in to a midfielder because he didn’t trust him to play out from the back. Rodwell was more highly rated than Stones as a teenage defender with Chelsea offering £1m for him when he was only 14. Obviously there is no guarantee he’d have made it as a defender but to think he didn’t start playing in midfield until he broke in to the first team is crazy.

I also wonder if developing physically as a defender all your life, in which the game is more limited in the movements needed and how you are involved in the game, then causes issues when you are suddenly thrust in to a midfield role which is more 360 and dynamic when you are at your most vulnerable physically. When stevie g came through at the rs, he played a lot at right back, because he suffered injuries etc. and right back was less demanding on certain areas of the body, but he was actually a midfielder anyway. Most footballers tend to work backwards on the pitch as they progress through the levels, not the other way around.

In terms of the thread and selling youngsters, I agree I think we should be keeping our best youngsters and only selling them on if they’re not good enough for our first team.

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