carlos21
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I suspect they know full well though that the £300 is intended to be for slightly more than 30 minutes face time. That the bloke admitted that precious few actually do anything in their short time there it's hard to believe they think they're doing sufficient work to justify being paid.
Dell Boy
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That post literally makes no sense.
So to be clear, you're saying the way Nazism took off in Germany in the late 20s and 30s - could happen here? Now in the UK?
History can of course repeat itself if the variables are similar. But in today's world, for rich democracies like the UK, the individual and the media have too much power to allow the government of the day to run off with itself.
And yes the EU has plenty of control over a nation state. As is proved time and time again.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Politicians have snouts in gravy boat shocker. These political parasites, having spent their lives running councils or as MP's etc, now get to continue it further by moving into the Lords.....exhibit A John Prescott......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
When you say my post literally makes no sense, do you mean I have composed it incorrectly, or that everything I posted makes no sense to you ?
If the former, then I apologise, if the latter then I can't really be bothered educating you.........
Dell Boy
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Right here we go...I'll break down that post of yours line by line:
We always did have a wealthy and independent media. - No we didn't.
The EU has no control over a nation state. - Yes it does.
If you truly believe that history cannot repeat itself then we are screwed, - History can be repeated under certain circumstances.
history always repeats itself when people forget their history....... - WTF? Have you been at the sherry?
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Well at least now you're trying instead of just dismissing views....
Who do you think owned the media ? Think before TV arrived, think before radio arrived.....
The EU has no power over a nation state, if it has can you show us where and when we voted for that, or is this an example of what happens when politicians just create their own rules.......
You do at least now admit that history can repeat itself.....good
No, I haven't been on the sherry.....not a great debating point really.....
Dell Boy
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Okay just to be clear, we're debating the point of whether a present-day UK government that had control of both Houses of Parliament (but did not get a majority of the popular vote) could go off and change all the laws it wanted to effectively govern unopposed and cause merry havoc? You then likened it to Nazi Germany by way of example.
The modern media in the UK and similar countries is all-powerful. Governments know and respect that. Setting aside independent social media, the mainstream media industry shapes the country. Before TV and radio the media was owned by a select few families but they did not have the protection of an open and transparent society to back them up as they do now. The UK government can be challenged in the Supreme Court and in European courts. The rights of individuals and companies in the UK are therefore largely protected. Most major media companies are also international in their reach so the UK government's impact would only be selective in any case.
The EU has lots of power over the UK. This country's inability to limit the number of migrants from Romania/Bulgaria being just one example.
Of course history can repeat itself - under certain circumstances. As with virtually everything. That doesn't mean it will happen again.
"history always repeats itself when people forget their history". That's hardly a clear sentence is it?!? Learning lessons from the past is important of course. But it's just one factor amongst literally millions.
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Govermnent workers are absolutely raking it in. At the expense of the rest of the country. Expenses, second houses, travel costs, free meals, yearly pay increase miles above inflation, cars. What a life.
chrismpw
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These Lords will have passed the act that allows MPs to have an 11% payrise without being able to challenge it. The MPs aren't likely, in turn, to change the Lords' perks of the job.
We are a shambles, a ruddy shambles of a country since we allow it, and each five years we play along voting in the same shower of crooks who aspire to power, so they can preserve wealth and privilege to the ruling classes (as they have since the Norman conquest).
Why the hell do we need 700+ people all doing exactly what their whip says anyway? Since when has that been democracy? May as well be just 2 party leaders. A lot cheaper. All my MP does when I write with a concern or query is pass the letter on, and pass back a reply. he never expresses an opinion, agrees or disagrees. He's a very handsomely paid secretary.
The French had the right idea. If the leaders don't do a good job - off with their heads. That ought to inspire focus on a job well done AND keeping the 'voters' happy!
We are a shambles, a ruddy shambles of a country since we allow it, and each five years we play along voting in the same shower of crooks who aspire to power, so they can preserve wealth and privilege to the ruling classes (as they have since the Norman conquest).
Why the hell do we need 700+ people all doing exactly what their whip says anyway? Since when has that been democracy? May as well be just 2 party leaders. A lot cheaper. All my MP does when I write with a concern or query is pass the letter on, and pass back a reply. he never expresses an opinion, agrees or disagrees. He's a very handsomely paid secretary.
The French had the right idea. If the leaders don't do a good job - off with their heads. That ought to inspire focus on a job well done AND keeping the 'voters' happy!
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
I think the guy doing this was just on the local news and his excuse was that he has to attend the House of Lords each day to get his payment but a lot of his work is actually done elsewhere hence why he's not there long.
Something like that anyway.
Most probably bollocks of course .
Something like that anyway.
Most probably bollocks of course .
.....ironic that the Peer in the sting has already been in prison for expenses fraud. The HoL clearly needs reform to become an elected chamber, but unfortunately the Tory part of the coalition wouldn't sign up for this. Until that happens jailbirds like Archer can walk straight from prison to the Upper Chamber and influence law making. Incredible really.
Seamus Colemole
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I hate archers, The Archers................................................and Jeffrey Archer.
Mrk
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The problem with this is the HoL would likely become more democratic than the Commons because it would probably use a voting system like STV/AV - in that case the HoL could rightly claim to be the more representative house which would cause huge friction between the Lords and Commons.
I'd scrap it completely and replace it with a constitution to stop the commons from abusing its power.
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