Cinema; A pessimistic view

[Elong]

Big, expensive hollywood films are only made to make money. There's no 'art' to them.

So the studios use the same stories, ideas, actors, directors etc. because they know people will watch them and they don't want to take any risks.

This is very telling of the latest Hobbit movie. The Extended Edition which Peter Jackson releases later in the year will contain about 30 minutes of additional footage, not for the sake of it, but because it was cut due to New Line wanting the movie to be shorter so they could squeeze more showings in and make more cash.

The Extended Editions are much better versions, and through them plotlines actually make more sense. Kingdom Of Heaven was another movie that got panned when it was first released, but it was heavily cut and didn't make sense. The Director's Cut is far superior.

 

[Allezfan]

This is very telling of the latest Hobbit movie. The Extended Edition which Peter Jackson releases later in the year will contain about 30 minutes of additional footage, not for the sake of it, but because it was cut due to New Line wanting the movie to be shorter so they could squeeze more showings in and make more cash.

The Extended Editions are much better versions, and through them plotlines actually make more sense. Kingdom Of Heaven was another movie that got panned when it was first released, but it was heavily cut and didn't make sense. The Director's Cut is far superior.

The Hobbit moves are like 10 hours long without those extra scenes. If you need that much time to explain your plot so it makes sense, you might just not be a very good storyteller.

 

[Elong]

The Hobbit moves are like 10 hours long without those extra scenes. If you need that much time to explain your plot so it makes sense, you might just not be a very good storyteller.

Or it's just a very long story. The Lord Of The Rings EE are nearly 4 hours long each, love it.

 

[Allezfan]

Or it's just a very long story. The Lord Of The Rings EE are nearly 4 hours long each, love it.

I don't mind the hobbit films but there's a lot of just half hour long fight scenes with no real point, I think you could cut a lot and they wouldn't miss much.

I mean the book is like what 100 pages? If you can't tell that in three 3 hour long movies, you can't get upset cos of studio cuts.

 

[Elong]

I don't mind the hobbit films but there's a lot of just half hour long fight scenes with no real point, I think you could cut a lot and they wouldn't miss much.

I mean the book is like what 100 pages? If you can't tell that in three 3 hour long movies, you can't get upset cos of studio cuts.

Spot on, I'm not a big fan of these movies, the best scenes are the ones involving dialogue, yet Jackson wants to keep showing more and more decapitations and crazy, gravity defying fight scenes, it's such a lovely story too. The most recent one captures most of the feel of the book and the relationships (and loss) within it thank God.

There's plenty of other stuff that Tolkien wrote about happening at the same time in the story as The Hobbit, hence the longer versions, which is cool as a fan of the books. Like Gandalf just decides to feck off at one point and leave them too it, and they get grumpy about it, but he's really had to go deal with Sauron.