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hktoffee
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No one said she is a perfect country. Autocracy, that is.
No one can win the Jap in terms of doing those crazy massacre stuff. Germany did it to the Jews. Japan did it to ROC.
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No one said she is a perfect country. Autocracy, that is.
No one can win the Jap in terms of doing those crazy massacre stuff. Germany did it to the Jews. Japan did it to ROC.
TheFinnFan
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Maybe you should check out what's happening today and not 50 years ago
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hktoffee
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But you see what the Japanese officials are doing today. They are still worshipping war criminals in the Yasukuni shrine. They are still denying history facts (see below). They are building an army which is beyond self defence. They can even build atomic bombs in a day or two because they store those materials in the nuclear plants.
In May 1994, Justice Minister Shigeto Nagano called the Nanjing Massacre a "fabrication".
On June 19, 2007, a group of around 100 Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) lawmakers again denounced the Nanjing Massacre as a fabrication, arguing that there was no evidence to prove the allegations of mass killings by Japanese soldiers. They accused Beijing of using the alleged incident as a "political advertisement".
On February 20, 2012, Takashi Kawamura, mayor of Nagoya, told a visiting delegation from Nanjing that the massacre "probably never happened". Two days later he defended his remarks, saying, "Even since I was a national Diet representative, I have said [repeatedly] there was no [Nanjing] massacre that resulted in murders of several hundred thousands of people."
On February 24, 2012, Tokyo governor Shintaro Ishihara said that he also believes that the Nanjing massacre never happened. He reportedly claims it would have been impossible to kill so many people in such a short period of time.
Check these out, they are all on the internet.
And this islands dispute was created by the U.S anyway.
TheFinnFan
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Who wouldn't keep up strong army when China is on their doorstep. Let me assure you, China is enjoying cause of this situation.
War is hell, there's horrible crimes happening in every war mate.
War is hell, there's horrible crimes happening in every war mate.
orchard
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Some of the research that the Units carried out were horrific. Totally freezing limbs bit by bit, sugically removing, freezing another part of the limb, and progressing until the subject was only a head and torso, and then transferring to the biological section for a bit of Bubonic or Cholera exposure.
Words escape me...ffs
Words escape me...ffs
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hktoffee
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It is a myth that China has a strong army (ok you may say it is strong; quantities wise). The majority of the frighters jets and battleships are 70s/80s products. No Euro countries sell their advance weapon tech to PRC due to embargo. Besides, the Atago class and Kongo class of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force will beat the Chinese easily. And don't forget Japan's anti-submarine warfare is top nod (if not the best in the world). I do not understand why is she enjoying the situation as she is not the one who started this (i.e purchasing the dispute islands; Japan did it).
Your country (Finland?) never suffered from (correct me if I am wrong) these big scales atrocities (and no restitution) so it is easy to say horrible crimes happening in every war.
TheFinnFan
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I don't defend japans atrocities, but in suprised that you don't see what kind of "bully" china is. They practically are sabotaging all important UN resolutions wit russia...and about Finland...and our war history, I won't go there now.
sportbillyblue
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anyway let them knock lumps out of each other then at a convenient point introduce a bug / virus that inflicts a continental~wide rice blight, kick back and wade in their once they're on their knees and mop up.
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hktoffee
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Of course I know. They are best at "bullying" their own citizens (1989 tiananmen; no freedom; corruption; no right to vote) but come on, to say they are "bullying" Japan is way too far.
And if you call someone "bully" what the hack is U.S doing in the South China Sea, Middle East etc? They have militiary bases all over the world. Even this islands dispute is none of their business, they said they are going to aid Japan if a war breaks out.
TheFinnFan
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Are you saying you would prefer that china would have bases all over the globe mate?
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hktoffee
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I didn't say that and that will not happen anyway. Like I said, the U.S think they are international police and to take care of matters that are not their business i.e this islands dispute.
TheFinnFan
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Usa naturally recognises Chinas rising power and feel that they must let China know what's gonna happend if this will escalate. Nothing strange about that.
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hktoffee
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Their self-interest at the end of the day. They do not want China to be boss say 30 years later.
TheFinnFan
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you are absolutely spot on about that. That's the way it goes.
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