Changing Perceptions

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Zatara

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So, all the fanfair and we've ended up with Koeman and Gibson. Not exactly the statement i was hoping for (so far).

If we are looking to make a splash then rather than taking a manager off Southampton why dont we go after Spurs' top players?

The teams that usually win the league over the premier league era have always had English players and Man City immediately signed Milner, Barry and others before making pushes for the title.

We currently have 2 marketable stars (excluding lukaku) in Stones and Barkley. Its clear to me that we will be improving our marketing and seeking to improve our "Global Brand" with these two and other players.

What we've seen with Koeman is that money talks. For me, Spurs are in the same boat as Leicester just with better individuals and more money BUT can they compete consistently with Utd,Chelsea or City who can throw hundreds of millions around?

We apparently have a fortune to spend (in fact an ITK posted we could actually afford Messi if we wanted) so why not move on players who could raise our profile but also improve us as a team and massively weaken a couple of other teams?

A big statement for me would be to move for Jack Butland to go alongside Stones and Barkley as England Internationals.

At that point people start to take notice and we then put big money down for Eric Dier and Delle Alli. Additionally when Lukaku is sold we add some money and move for Kane.

That to me is massive ambition. The players all have at least 10 seasons in them and with Butland signed we would have 3 England Internationals + 3 more with the Spurs players. Perhaps they wouldnt (all) come but it would be an attraction to add up to 4 England players not only for branding, improving the team but also surely they would buy into this if the money and ambition were there?

So, if we do have massive money and want to change the clubs perception to become a global brand as well as achieving success then why not make huge moves like this and our money down to attract them?
 

LOL

Eric Dier, Delle Alli and Kane wouldnt come here Zat.

Im sorry but this is a shocking thread.

Why not? If we supposedly have the means to "attract anyone we want".

Or does this "fanfare" simply mean we can go and buy the Lallana, Lovren and other types which Liverpool did?

Are we now a powerhouse who can fund huge players or not?
 

Why not? If we supposedly have the means to "attract anyone we want".

Or does this "fanfare" simply mean we can go and buy the Lallana, Lovren and other types which Liverpool did?

Are we now a powerhouse who can fund huge players or not?

Of course we arent a powerhouse that can buy huge players.

You want it all and you want it now, its not going to happen overnight.
 
So, all the fanfair and we've ended up with Koeman and Gibson. Not exactly the statement i was hoping for (so far).

If we are looking to make a splash then rather than taking a manager off Southampton why dont we go after Spurs' top players?

The teams that usually win the league over the premier league era have always had English players and Man City immediately signed Milner, Barry and others before making pushes for the title.

We currently have 2 marketable stars (excluding lukaku) in Stones and Barkley. Its clear to me that we will be improving our marketing and seeking to improve our "Global Brand" with these two and other players.

What we've seen with Koeman is that money talks. For me, Spurs are in the same boat as Leicester just with better individuals and more money BUT can they compete consistently with Utd,Chelsea or City who can throw hundreds of millions around?

We apparently have a fortune to spend (in fact an ITK posted we could actually afford Messi if we wanted) so why not move on players who could raise our profile but also improve us as a team and massively weaken a couple of other teams?

A big statement for me would be to move for Jack Butland to go alongside Stones and Barkley as England Internationals.

At that point people start to take notice and we then put big money down for Eric Dier and Delle Alli. Additionally when Lukaku is sold we add some money and move for Kane.

That to me is massive ambition. The players all have at least 10 seasons in them and with Butland signed we would have 3 England Internationals + 3 more with the Spurs players. Perhaps they wouldnt (all) come but it would be an attraction to add up to 4 England players not only for branding, improving the team but also surely they would buy into this if the money and ambition were there?

So, if we do have massive money and want to change the clubs perception to become a global brand as well as achieving success then why not make huge moves like this and our money down to attract them?

Didn't you back Martinez?
 
Didn't you back Martinez?
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Of course we arent a powerhouse that can buy huge players.

You want it all and you want it now, its not going to happen overnight.

So we cant make offers for top players from rival teans like man city did when they were taken over?

Then basically all these articles in the press and ITKs saying we are signing amazing players actually means what...?

Ambition has no limit, if we are ambitious and supposedly can sign "anyone we want" like the press are saying then why not?
 

Didn't you back Martinez?

Back a manager? I always back our managers.

Struggling with Koeman though...yet am hearing all this talk of "massive ambition" yet it looks like in fact not many people believe it.

Either we can make huge waves or we cant.
 
Tbf we've been turd for two season. I was shocked Koeman was considering us as he's built a decent team at Soton and is in Europe. As for Gibson, I guess Moshiri hasn't cleaned all the clowns out of the place yet, plus could have been an old offer that the clown put in motion.
 
This whole Gibson extension, for whatever reason valid or not, has come as a deflator really.
I can, in part, understand where Zatara is coming from.

I am hoping when Koeman is finally here, we see less Pellè rumours and more ambitious attempts at big names.
 
So we cant make offers for top players from rival teans like man city did when they were taken over?

Then basically all these articles in the press and ITKs saying we are signing amazing players actually means what...?

Ambition has no limit, if we are ambitious and supposedly can sign "anyone we want" like the press are saying then why not?

Man City didnt make offers from rival teams and take their best players, they signed Craig Bellamy, Shaun Wright Phillips and Wayne freaking Bridge.
 
Back a manager? I always back our managers.

Struggling with Koeman though...yet am hearing all this talk of "massive ambition" yet it looks like in fact not many people believe it.

Either we can make huge waves or we cant.

Is Koeman even our manager yet isn't he on holiday? What's all this in aid of can we wait till he manages us and starts bidding for players. Maybe get a game under his belt.

Plus Koeman is better than Martinez anyway how can you back him and not Koeman. I'm confused. Kinda scared a bit to.
 

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