Can someone explain

[Goat]

Probably standing behind that alien birth Shawcross.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Sorry mate but none of that makes any sense to me . A captain is supposed to be a leader of men . Someone who given any set of circumstances will never go missing so long as there is time left on the watch . Leon Osman is not a captain , he never was and never will be . I am absolutely astounded he had the armband today . We looked tired today and as much as I hate to make excuses where fixtures are concerned today we looked like this match was 90 minutes too far .

Today was crying out for someone to say " right fcuk this come on lads these are gash lets have grab this game and take it home "

Who got taken off ? Jesus christ Moyes lad

Who would you say is a leader of men in our side?

There's not many options to be honest, especially when your missing players like Neville, Pienaar, Arteta, Jagielka and Yobo. We are down to the bare bones, Osman is about 5th in line.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Interesting today to see Moyes call Rodwell over and give him instructions, to which he relayed to the rest of the midfield. Surely that's Osman's job?

Moyes always does that, he's always barking orders at the players and giving them tips and instructions when there are breaks in play.

 

[bluebastardo]

He is the most senior member of that team, simple as that.

But the fact Moyes has made him captain in a side that has Distin, Cahill, [Poor language removed] even Rodwell could be captain at the moment, it says to me that Osman is a first team player, and not a squad player. He did score a good goal today, but then he messed up another simple pass - too inconsistent.

Hibbert is the most senior member.

I would prefer Hibbert as captain than Osman, especially as he has been our best player this season by a mile.

 

[ToxtethBlue]

I'd give it to Distin.

 

[Goat]

Cahill for me.

 

[BadWool76]

Who would you say is a leader of men in our side?

There's not many options to be honest, especially when your missing players like Neville, Pienaar, Arteta, Jagielka and Yobo. We are down to the bare bones, Osman is about 5th in line.

Distain . That much is becoming increasingly obvious with each game . I think he is a tremendous signing . Pure class .

 

[Toffe3m4n]

I don't mind Ossie as captain as he's one of our senior players, but why not Tim Cahill in that case? I reckon he'd make a great captain..

 

[TX Bill]

Every team needs an Osman. Man Utd for instance have Fletcher and O'Shea. Neither would be regarded as world beaters but both can play in various positions and never fail to give their all to the team, and as a result notch up 40 games a season each on a consistent basis. Osman is like that.

As for his captaincy, who are we to judge? Fans get to see 90 minutes of action each week and presumably judge merit on whether the captain shouts a lot and puts in blood and thunder tackles. I dare say the role is a lot more involved than that and involve much unseen work.

If Moyes thinks he's captaincy material then that's good enough for me.

This.

 

[TX Bill]

Frankly, I think the captaincy is overrated.

 

[Number_25]

He rallyed the team on.

I thought he was quite good..

 

[tadpole]

He is the most senior member of that team, simple as that.

But the fact Moyes has made him captain in a side that has Distin, Cahill, [Poor language removed] even Rodwell could be captain at the moment, it says to me that Osman is a first team player, and not a squad player.

This is the problem I have. However good Osman's attitude may be, if we're at full strength he is obviously struggling to get into the side. Ideally the captain should be someone who's a shoe-in. For these reasons I don't see Osman as a future captain, and I think Moyes missed out on an opportunity to give experience to someone who could be a potential future captain.

I don't know whether it would be right to give the armband to Distin after such a short time at the club, that may give the wrong signals to some of the more senior players, but I agree with what others have said about Distin's leadership qualities.

 

[Cahill_Winner]

This is the problem I have. However good Osman's attitude may be, if we're at full strength he is obviously struggling to get into the side. Ideally the captain should be someone who's a shoe-in. For these reasons I don't see Osman as a future captain, and I think Moyes missed out on an opportunity to give experience to someone who could be a potential future captain.

I don't know whether it would be right to give the armband to Distin after such a short time at the club, that may give the wrong signals to some of the more senior players, but I agree with what others have said about Distin's leadership qualities.

I don't see that personally. When a team is understrength you want an experienced player as captain. Putting a younger player in who might be good in the role in the future is a mistake because they need to learn this from the more senior players around them. Captaincy is all about attitude - performing the job professionally and keeping a cool head when others are losing their's. Osman's "leadership" could be characterised by his commitment and effort.

Making Rodwell captain at this stage holds the disadvantage of testing his character when things aren't going so well. To motivate a team playing badly, the manager has to know the player will come through and lead. Rodwell is impressive, but in my view, more likely to crumble than Osman if we were up against it.

And if Osman isn't a first teamer by default when we're at full strength. So what? Neville does it. It's not like players look at Osman and think, "you weren't playing 3 games ago, therefore I won't listen to you".