BT - AVOID THEM LIKE THEY ARE THE RS!

[Deleted member 28206]

Maybe BT have a poorer standard of lying an pretending they care?

 

[james0451]

It does matter, if you go with virgin media it is separate from BT. You get the fastest broadband on market, and you are not tied in to the unreliable BT and Sky.

 

[Tubey]

The different providers have their own servers, but basically it comes down to the technical support and customer service. That is what you are paying for.

You are still limited by the medium of transmission (in this case copper lines) and by usage on your exchange.

Not quite true in the UK. Virgin Media have their own lines, whilst BT own everything else. Plus Virgin have the naturally better technology.

That's the reason I wouldn't go to Sky for broadband as it shares it's connections with BT, TalkTalk etc.

 

[Holden]

tbh i havent had much of a problem with the actual line and broadband, its the customer service (helpdesk). They do say judge a man by what he does after he makes a mistake (thats why Suarez is such a c*ck!).

 

[maddison]

DSL IS CRAP!!!! ADSL, ADSL2+, VDSL it is all crap. VDSL gets some decent speeds, but is still limited by network usage and weather.

Oh, and it doesn't matter who you go with, it all goes out over the same lines. Who are the line owners in the UK?

The different providers have their own servers, but basically it comes down to the technical support and customer service. That is what you are paying for.

You are still limited by the medium of transmission (in this case copper lines) and by usage on your exchange.

VDSL is what FTTC is, in case anyone is wondering

The actual copper cable in the ground means nothing outside of the maximum throughout the quality of cable, coupled with the distance from the exchange, will provide. It totally matters who you go with, and to say otherwise shows a lack of understanding of how DSL type services are provisioned.

Firstly; Openreach don't own all of the DSLAMs' in the UK, that's what LLU means. LLU IS WHERE Anither ISP puts infrastructure in the exchange, often offering higher Internet access speeds than customers who are on an exclusively Openreach service would enjoy. Second; the two most important factors when determining your average speed have nothing to do with the Openreach network and everything to do with your ISP. This would be the number of subscribers on the service, and the bandwidth and number of Internet peering points.

The number of subscribers will determine how the service is aggregated, this could have a big impact on throughput. Services like TalkTalk will shove as many subscribers onto the network as possible without parading the bandwidth on their piercing points. The peering points are the networks direct interconnects with the Internet. The number of peering points will determine the level of resiliency. You don't share this part of the service with any other ISP's, just your own.

The usage on your exchange is generally managed very well. Hope that clarifies a few things.

 

[Holden]

Haha - you arent the guy "NSNO" on their forum are you?! Can you also sort out my refund on my £20

BT is great....

 

[Brennan]

VDSL is what FTTC is, in case anyone is wondering

The actual copper cable in the ground means nothing outside of the maximum throughout the quality of cable and distance from the exchange will provide. It totally matters who yiu go with, and to say otherwise shows a lack of understanding of how DSL Tyler services are provisioned.

Firstly; Openreach don't own all of the DSLAMs' in the UK, that's what LLU means. LLU IS WHERE Anither ISP puts infrastructure in the exchange, often offering higher Internet access speeds than customers who are on an exclusively Openreach service would enjoy. Second; the two most important factors when determining your average speed have nothing to do with the Openreach network and everything to do with your ISP. This would be the number of subscribers on the service, and the bandwidth and number of Internet piercing points.

The number of subscribers will determine how the service is aggregated, this could have a big impact on throughput. Services like TalkTalk will shove as many subscribers onto the network as possible without parading the bandwidth on their piercing points. The piercing points are the networks direct interconnects with the Internet. The number of piercing points will determine the level of resiliency.

The usage on your exchange is generally managed very well. Hope that clarifies a few things.

Dylan just got out nerded.

 

[Huyton Layne]

I thought cable came thru years ago by my dad's and put fibre-optic cable in the ground. How come that doesn't get used?