BritCard (Digital ID card)

[Milk]

Help me out …. I see we are going to be forced to have one but if you’re retired or own your own business, do you have to have one as you’re not seeking work or are employed?

Mad Tinz, innit

 

[jazzy]

Help me out …. I see we are going to be forced to have one but if you’re retired or own your own business, do you have to have one as you’re not seeking work or are employed?

Mad Tinz, innit

No. It's not compulsory.
You only need you if you want to seek employment

 

[Rita_Poon]

Seems very much like a gimmick, how are they going to check the ID of people who don't have a compatible mobile phone or simply refuse to own one?

 

[magicjuan]

This is them trying to appease the reform dicktips. And the premise of 'employment' issues is a nonsense. The means exist elsewhere, this is to bring all that info into a manageable 'app' for government purposes.
Interesting other countries are looking at it at the same time.
Seeing as there is a huge lurch to the right this could be like number tatooed on your arm...

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Help me out …. I see we are going to be forced to have one but if you’re retired or own your own business, do you have to have one as you’re not seeking work or are employed?

Mad Tinz, innit

From 18 November 2025, identity verification will be required for:

new directors and people with significant control (PSCs)
existing directors and PSCs
members of a limited liability partnership (LLP)
We’ll introduce identity verification at a later date for:

people who file at Companies House
limited partnerships
corporate directors of companies
corporate members of LLPs
officers of corporate PSCs

Identity verification

Anyone setting up, running, owning or controlling a company in the UK will need to verify their identity.

changestoukcompanylaw.campaign.gov.uk

 

[GrandOldTeam]

This is them trying to appease the reform dicktips. And the premise of 'employment' issues is a nonsense. The means exist elsewhere, this is to bring all that info into a manageable 'app' for government purposes.
Interesting other countries are looking at it at the same time.
Seeing as there is a huge lurch to the right this could be like number tatooed on your arm...

Reform demographic are the most against it - polls even show it.

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[summerisle]

Europe seems fine with them. The problem with the UK doing it is you know for a fact that it'll be overspent by a factor of ten and it still won't work.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Seems very much like a gimmick, how are they going to check the ID of people who don't have a compatible mobile phone or simply refuse to own one?

My guess is only the anti-establishment conspiracy theorist cranks would refuse a phone. They're also unlikely to want to work for the 'man'.

Problem solved.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Europe seems fine with them. The problem with the UK doing it is you know for a fact that it'll be overspent by a factor of ten and it still won't work.

Yeah, its no bother on the continent. Also meant those in the EU often didnt bother with a passport as you could travel on it to other EU countries (if not in Shengen).

 

[magicjuan]

Reform demographic are the most against it - polls even show it.

Edit;

And then the government can say they've offered up a solution...

 

[summerisle]

Yeah, its no bother on the continent. Also meant those in the EU often didnt bother with a passport as you could travel on it to other EU countries (if not in Shengen).

Starmer’s ID plan has caused upset, but in the EU the debate has long been settled

ID cards have become an essential part of life for many across the bloc, with digital versions already launched in many member states

www.theguardian.com

Another one, doesn't exactly breed confidence.

Harrods says customers' data stolen in IT breach

The luxury department store says stolen information includes names and contact details.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Rita_Poon]

My guess is only the anti-establishment conspiracy theorist cranks would refuse a phone. They're also unlikely to want to work for the 'man'.

Problem solved.

I don't do conspiracy theories nor would I class myself as a crank (harks back to Vera Duckworth 'crank foods' vid courtesy of @summerisle )

The auspices of employment, so kids, adolescents and pensioners need not apply? There's a situation currently where delivery drivers are sharing an app, so they work shifts around one another for reasons that are theirs (moonlighting vs right to work vs tax band alterations vs the bleeding obvious). Also no idea how this will affect gang masters and their victims re modern slavery.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Starmer’s ID plan has caused upset, but in the EU the debate has long been settled

ID cards have become an essential part of life for many across the bloc, with digital versions already launched in many member states

www.theguardian.com

Another one, doesn't exactly breed confidence.

Harrods says customers' data stolen in IT breach

The luxury department store says stolen information includes names and contact details.

www.bbc.co.uk

digitising the nhs records, how many billions? fail.

Nursery hackers threaten to publish more children's profiles

The criminals say they will share 30 more profiles along with 100 employees' data if a ransom is not paid.

www.bbc.co.uk

+

Jaguar Land Rover production severely hit by cyber attack

Staff were sent home and the company shut down its IT systems in an effort to minimise the damage done.

www.bbc.co.uk

+

EU cyber agency says airport software held to ransom by criminals

Brussels Airport asks airlines to cancel nearly half of their outgoing flights on Monday.

www.bbc.co.uk

Just this week.

 

[toffee82]

My guess is only the anti-establishment conspiracy theorist cranks would refuse a phone. They're also unlikely to want to work for the 'man'.

Problem solved.

The anti-establishment conspiracy theorists spend more time on their phones than anyone.

 

[NeilMorepies]

I already have an NI number and photo identification that can be checked on employment.

The Government has proved incapable of storing such data safely, and an inability to not sell off similar private data to billionaires and corporations.

They can sod off