Boss footballer showdown part 4- Ronaldinho vs Kaka

[Ashtonian]

(Credit to @ijjysmith )
Who was better?

Kaka Honours

Club
São Paulo[10]

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  • Torneio Rio-São Paulo: 2001

Milan[10]

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  • Serie A: 2003–04
  • Supercoppa Italiana: 2004
  • UEFA Champions League:2006–07
  • UEFA Super Cup: 2007
  • FIFA Club World Cup: 2007

Real Madrid[10]

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  • La Liga: 2011–12
  • Copa del Rey: 2010–11
  • Supercopa de España: 2012

Country
Brazil[10]

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  • FIFA World Cup: 2002
  • FIFA Confederations Cup: 2005, 2009
  • Superclásico de las Américas: 2014

Personal


Revista PlacarBola de Ouro 2002
Bola de Prata (best player by position) 2002
CONCACAF Gold Cup Best XI 2003
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year 2004, 2006, 2007
Serie A Footballer of the Year 2004, 2007
UEFA Champions League Top Assist Provider 2004–05,2011–12
UEFA Club Midfielder of the Year 2004–05
UEFA Champions League Bronze Top Scorer 2005–06
UEFA Team of the Year 2006, 2007, 2009
FIFPro World XI 2006,[219]2007,[220]2008
Pallone d'Argento 2006–07
UEFA Champions League Top Scorer 2006–07
UEFA Club Forward of the Year 2006–07
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year 2006–07
FIFPro World Player of the Year 2007
Ballon d'Or 2007
FIFA World Player of the Year 2007
World Soccer Player of the Year 2007
IFFHS World's Best Playmaker 2007
IAAF Latin Sportsman of the Year 2007
Onze d'Or 2007
FIFA Club World CupGolden Ball 2007
FIFA Club World Cup Most Valuable Player of the Final 2007
Time 100 2008,[50]2009
Maracanã Hall of Fame 2008
Samba d'Or 2008
Marca Leyenda 2009
FIFA Confederations Cup Golden Ball 2009
FIFA Confederations Cup Best XI 2009
FIFA World CupTop Assist Provider 2010
A.C. Milan Hall of Fame 2010
MLS All-Star 2015,2016
MLS All-Star MVP 2015[238]
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year(substitute) 2015


Ronaldinho Honours


Club
Grêmio

• South Cup (1): 1999
• Campeonato Gaúcho (1): 1999

Paris Saint-Germain

• UEFA Intertoto Cup (1): 2001

Barcelona

• La Liga (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
• Supercopa de España (2): 2005,2006
• UEFA Champions League (1): 2005–06
• FIFA Club World Cup Runner-up (1):2006

Milan

• Serie A (1): 2010–11

Flamengo

• Campeonato Carioca (1): 2011

Atlético Mineiro

• Campeonato Mineiro (1): 2013
• Copa Libertadores (1): 2013
• Recopa Sudamericana (1): 2014

International
Brazil

• Copa América (1): 1999
• FIFA World Cup (1): 2002
• FIFA Confederations Cup (1): 2005
• Superclásico de las Américas (1):2011

Brazil U23

• CONMEBOL Men Pre-Olympic Tournament (1): 1999
• Olympic Bronze Medal (1): 2008

Brazil U17

• South American Under-17 Football Championship (1): 1997
• FIFA U-17 World Championship (1):1997

Personal honours

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  • FIFA Confederations Cup Golden Ball (1): 1999
  • FIFA Confederations Cup Golden Shoe (1): 1999
  • Rio Grande do Sul State Championship Top Scorer (1): 1999
  • CONMEBOL Men Pre-Olympic Tournament Top Scorer (1): 2000
  • FIFA World Cup All-Star Team (1):2002
  • FIFA 100
  • La Liga Ibero-American Player of the Year (1): 2004
  • FIFA Confederations Cup Bronze Ball(1): 2005
  • World Soccer Magazine World Player of The Year (2): 2004, 2005
  • FIFA World Player of the Year (2):2004, 2005
  • Ballon d'Or (1): 2005
  • Onze d'Or (1): 2005
  • La Liga Assist Leader (1): 2005–06[153]
  • UEFA Club Forward of the Year (1): 2004–05
  • UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2005–06
  • UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06
  • ESM Team of the Year (3): 2003–04,2004–05, 2005–06
  • Don Balón Award (2): 2003–04, 2005–06
  • FIFPro World Player of the Year (1): 2005
  • FIFPro World XI (3): 2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07
  • FIFA World Player of the Year – Bronze award (1): 2006
  • Serie A Assist Leader (1): 2009–10[154]
  • Golden Foot (1): 2009
  • Bola de Ouro (1): 2012
  • South American Footballer of the Year (1): 2013
  • Brazilian Football Museum Hall of Fame
  • UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year(substitute; published 2015)[155]

 

[ijjysmith]

We've had part 3 mate.

 

[Prevenger17]

Ronaldinho was an utter freak of nature at his peak. I have a resounding memory of him utterly demolishing John Terry on the "D" and smashing one into the corner. No comparison for me, Kaka was a very good player, but Ronny was something else, making his premature decline altogether sadder.

 

[Prevenger17]

We've had part 3 mate.

Not to mention the fact that he stole your idea. You gonna take that mate?

 

[Ashtonian]

We've had part 3 mate.

changed accordingly

think this is a good one, similar players but thought of differently

 

[Ashtonian]

Not to mention the fact that he stole your idea. You gonna take that mate?

I am affectionately using the model.

 

[Prevenger17]

think this is a good one, similar players but thought of differently

It won't even be close, Ronaldinho was a far superior footballer

 

[ijjysmith]

Not to mention the fact that he stole your idea. You gonna take that mate?

It's all good to be honest. Good two to pick I thought.

 

[ijjysmith]

Obviously Ronaldinho though.

Obviously.

 

[Prevenger17]

It's all good to be honest. Good two to pick I thought.

Nah, Ronaldinho has this easily. I'm going to put my own up, my mind is running away with me with this concept of yours

 

[ijjysmith]

Nah, Ronaldinho has this easily. I'm going to put my own up, my mind is running away with me with this concept of yours

The Keane Vieira one was going to be my next. Closest one I reckon.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Ronaldinho. Absolute joy to behold how that guy played football. Pure magic.

 

[Prevenger17]

The Keane Vieira one was going to be my next. Closest one I reckon.

Keane will edge it I'd say, though it won't be as close as Xavi/Pirlo. I'm thinking Thuram and Cannavaro

 

[ijjysmith]

Keane will edge it I'd say, though it won't be as close as Xavi/Pirlo. I'm thinking Thuram and Cannavaro

Cannavaro Nesta maybe?

 

[Prevenger17]

Cannavaro Nesta maybe?

Hmm, that's a nice one.