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Asians in Football

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Royal said:
But it's a myth that all races are identical except for aesthetically. We evolved on different continents to deal with different conditions. Africans have better lower body strength and Europeans have better upper body strength, if I remember rightly. It's not racist, and yeah of course people can be born outside the mold and better than the race that's supposedly better than them at something, but in general terms that's just how it is.
I don't see why that matters. Why it's considered offensive to talk about it. It isn't derogatory to anyone involved and it isn't limiting anyones potential to just acknowledge it.
I don't see why the FA should care if more asian youths take up football. There's nothing stopping them if they want to, and we can't make them play it in the name of diversity if they don't.
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But it's also a myth that these differences are at all very significant. There is so much diversity within people's own races that it's a bit silly focusing on the differences between two groups that are, on average, very very similar. For example, the average white man and average black man, genetically speaking, might have some non-superficial difference in physique or intellect. But why bother emphasizing that when you and your next-door-neighbor of the same race probably has just as many differences, if not more? There are thick and smart lads in every classroom around the world, and those who are better at sports and those who aren't, etc.

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I've read enough to know that the people who are experts generally agree that there aren't significant differences. That isn't some grand PC conspiracy, that's just what the science and most scientists say.

And you're right, discussing these things on their own isn't racist. But given the controversial history and the fact that there still are a lot of people today who bring it up to only put others down, you can understand why people can get sensitive.
 

There are more differences within races than between races.

But yeah the average korean is smaller than the average austrian even if some koreans won't be.

There are differences between races, it's just that mostly the only people making a big deal about them are huge racists, which is a shame because there's nothing fundamentally racist about noting those differences.
 
And as for the lack of Asians in football... Culture is the only legitimate answer I suppose. Interest in other sports, conservative parents, etc.
 
Royal said:
I don't see why the FA should care if more asian youths take up football. There's nothing stopping them if they want to, and we can't make them play it in the name of diversity if they don't.
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They shouldn't and they don't.

Football clubs might just care, though. Because you often get players from regions without a football history cheaper then from those with one. An american will cost less than a brazilian of the same quality because more people will want the brazillian, a big strong essien type player in ghana will have more suitors than a wiry type for the same reason and english players are more expensive than finns. It might be that scouts focusing on british asians will be able to pick up players without so much competition because they haven't produced any top players so there's less focus on them. So your cheltenhams and your herefords wouldn't have to compete with your Man Us to pick up youths. Or not, but it's a thought.
 
maddison said:
Black guys do have an advantage in boxing, their skin is thicker. It means they feel less pain and are harder to cut, you have to fly down the divisions to find white guys shining through. I think there's also a correlation between poverty and boxing.

Flip over to MMA where the gloves are smaller and you see a lot more white guys, that could also correlate with the fact that in America wrestling is a very popular sport for white athletes, and the skills trip over to MMA.

I remember reading that the reason why there aren't any great black heavyweights in America anymore is because the athletic gene pool has moved towards Basketball and Football, if you couple that with the decline in racism, there might be some compelling evidence there to show that culture is a compelling indicator of how successful a particular race will be in a given sport.

I'm sure there is a massive untapped talent pool of Asian players in the UK, I hope this will change in the future.
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The heavyweight division is dominated by whites. The decline in american in heavyweights is down to boxing now being more popular in other countries and boxers in other countries having easier access to fights in amerca (we might never heard of pacqioao if he was born thirty years earlier), it's the same in tennis, golf, sprinting etc... the only sports americans dominate in are the ones that only/mainly americans play..... rounders, netball, that silly one where they wear pads and run into each other etc.
 

chicoazul said:
You not a fan then Longo?
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I tried to find the Youtube clip but it doesn't appear to exist, a quite funny NZ comedian called Billy T told that joke in one of his skit shows way back, it's a bit of a well known catchphrase in this country. Something along the lines of "Now sir, what are your thoughts on Euthanasia?" "Awww I dunno aye, I reckon we should look after our kiddies first aye" in a thick kiwi maori accent.
 


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