Eric Djemba-Djemba
Player Valuation: £60m
They're 3rd. Barely a great implosion you utter trumpet.
Arsenal protesting
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I'd like to protest Arsenal's continual existence
Lifelong-Toffee
Player Valuation: £500k
Agree with most of this. But talent identifying? No, that was only in the first years when his skills and circumstances benefitted him
Wenger's success was in leveraging his knowledge of the French league and youth academies in the late 90s, when it was super cheap and his PL rivals were very much Anglo-centric, so through his contacts there he did v well to get goriest talent in cheaply. He helped 'globalise' the PL, for better or for worse..
Lifelong-Toffee
Player Valuation: £500k
Wenger also is lauded for changing the culture at Arsenal: he cut out chips and fast food of the dietand cut out the drinking culture at Arsenal...(Perry Groves, Merson, Adams, your rogues gallery really)but let's face it, with the money going into the game from the 90s it was embarrassing that English football needed someone to come in and say this. It's obvious and was even then!
Inherited Bergkamp, inherited a massive back 5 of defence and keeper, plus decent enough midfield players and Wrighty, he inherited a club that was very historically successful, and was successful in recent years with Euro CWC and leagues under George Graham, inherited a club with good ownership and a well-connected FA man in David Dein, and importantly, Wenger inherited a club in an affluent part of London with a good brand --- very much key in the late 90s onwards as more potential for corporate and more appealing to foreign players and their wives who would prefer London to Newcastle/North a West etc
He bought (well) for half a team, his great 1998 team, and he did well to build on it with the 2002-4 team. But he forgot the secrets of his success - big, strong physical players, the best athletes and always at the top of the disciplinary table....prompting his "I didn't see it" schtick to defend his players.
After 2004/5 he brought in smaller, younger players and physically weaker men and done pretty poorly relatively.
it's been obvious that what 'won' him his cups was the original inherited defence + Bergkamp, and some well-scouted bigger and stronger athletes who could also play well --- as soon as other clubs got money and developed good scouting, then Wenger's advantage of knowledge of the French leagues and academy was totally negated.
Success begets success, and from the position Arsenal were in, they SHOULD have been more successful in the last 12 years. Wenger has never done well in Europe apart from 2006 so his tactics never were "world class"
The praise Wenger gets is totally disproportionate - foolish to sell RvP when he did, and foolish to lose Viera to City and what looks like Arteta to them too for coaching duties.
Arsenal to me represent a commercial enterprise, not a club really now. Which is a pity as their older fans are alright and Highbury was a beauty and it's a proper, historical club
Inherited Bergkamp, inherited a massive back 5 of defence and keeper, plus decent enough midfield players and Wrighty, he inherited a club that was very historically successful, and was successful in recent years with Euro CWC and leagues under George Graham, inherited a club with good ownership and a well-connected FA man in David Dein, and importantly, Wenger inherited a club in an affluent part of London with a good brand --- very much key in the late 90s onwards as more potential for corporate and more appealing to foreign players and their wives who would prefer London to Newcastle/North a West etc
He bought (well) for half a team, his great 1998 team, and he did well to build on it with the 2002-4 team. But he forgot the secrets of his success - big, strong physical players, the best athletes and always at the top of the disciplinary table....prompting his "I didn't see it" schtick to defend his players.
After 2004/5 he brought in smaller, younger players and physically weaker men and done pretty poorly relatively.
it's been obvious that what 'won' him his cups was the original inherited defence + Bergkamp, and some well-scouted bigger and stronger athletes who could also play well --- as soon as other clubs got money and developed good scouting, then Wenger's advantage of knowledge of the French leagues and academy was totally negated.
Success begets success, and from the position Arsenal were in, they SHOULD have been more successful in the last 12 years. Wenger has never done well in Europe apart from 2006 so his tactics never were "world class"
The praise Wenger gets is totally disproportionate - foolish to sell RvP when he did, and foolish to lose Viera to City and what looks like Arteta to them too for coaching duties.
Arsenal to me represent a commercial enterprise, not a club really now. Which is a pity as their older fans are alright and Highbury was a beauty and it's a proper, historical club
Darrenc34
Player Valuation: £8m
Well when they have won titles and won cups and got into the champions league stages time and time again, the supporters have a right to protest and speak out, won't make a difference though winger will stay and so will their board too!! On the other hand, morhishi would probably listen if we protested for a new manager and players!!
and they'll have big shoes to fill aka hiding to nothing
Quite possibly, i do think wenger has set arsenal up for the next to come in better than the vast majority of managers who depart, i've tremendous respect for wenger
Brendan Janus
Player Valuation: £40m
The protests are over the seating, it's lost it's spongey effect !!
dead_soft
Player Valuation: £35m
Yeah, you're coming across really well.
Yid4life
Player Valuation: £35m
Rhetorical mate rhetorical. I'm a (not very good) lover and definitely not a fighter. Its the internet ;-)
I'd go with, "How many Silk Cut did you smoke during the warm up?"
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