admirschleck
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Save some money and get 6S 64GB version, you won't regret it. SE is not good enough and 16GB is not big enough.
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Forgot to say that if it was a tackle then even at my age of 56 you would have no chance. Skills honed in Garston....you would be on your backside in a millisecond
YellowSweat
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I need a new phone myself, I'm waiting to see what the Google Pixel phones are like next month, Im not a fan of apple tbh.
Billy Dean
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Just eyeing up an I phone 6s and the choice is between 32 and 128. What would I get for 32gb?
Official launch tomorrow but Carphone Warehouse jumped the gun
http://www.androidcentral.com/carphone-warehouse-spills-all-google-pixel-beans
Gonna make my move away. Planned obsolescence is beyond a joke. Got an iPad 1 that ran everything fine, battery life is great but it can't use new apps because of OS requirements and the apps it has cease to function by the day.
Gonna get a phone for Christmas, one with a headphone socket that doesn't explode. Leaning toward an LG V20 as it seems the best phone that has a removable battery.
Gonna get a phone for Christmas, one with a headphone socket that doesn't explode. Leaning toward an LG V20 as it seems the best phone that has a removable battery.
Erm you do realise most Android phones can't be upgraded to the latest and greatest, and even the ones that can end up having to wait months and are usually stuck with one major OS upgrade........
IOS 10 compatibility goes all the way back to the iPad 2, the original iPad is in 2010, that's 6 years ago! lol
toffeepie1878
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S7 Edge, whoops the iPhone 6 into oblivion. That display and camera on the edge is simply amazing
toffeepie1878
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Pixel is way over priced, have a S7 Edge myself and its bees knees.
It's not about having the latest OS. It's about being able to run things and still function with an old OS. They write new OS's for new hardware so they'd be sluggish at best on an old machine but why just kill them? My old PC still runs like a beast on Windows 10, better on Ubuntu. It can do everything it needs to including streaming to my TV. It's 10 years old. It blows my mind that people are ok with things they lasting 2 years at most before they get a managed decline.
It's more down to the maturity of the hardware. Current iPad pro's have a Geekbench score of 2934 for single core and 4715 for multi core. The original iPad has a single core Ben mark of 474, it's simply too old.
It would do, the 6 is two generations behind. A more accurate comparison would be with the iPhone 7. All fan boyism aside, they're both excellent phones. They both have they're pluses and negatives, but you can't go far wrong with either.
Baines' left foot
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Got myself an iPhone SE at the weekend and I love it. I haven't sussed the whole ecosystem stuff yet but it's working nicely with my MacBook already, transferring documents is a breeze. Can't believe it took me so long to switch over.
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Interesting piece about the queues at Apple launches.
https://theconversation.com/the-real-story-behind-the-huge-crowds-gathered-at-iphone-launches-86808
Apple’s special edition iPhone X release – like the new iPhones before it – brings thousands of people lining up in front of Apple stores around the globe. It raises the seemingly obvious question: what sane person would queue overnight for an over-priced, at best incrementally-changed gadget?
But what sounds like a question for psychologists, may actually be better addressed as a matter of the way media and markets work.
You’d be forgiven for expecting this article to be a rant about the blatant consumerism of the people that stand in line – many overnight – to get the latest iPhone. Or against the world’s obsession with smartphones more generally. After ten years of extensive media coverage of each launch, we’ve all grown used to the clichéd pictures of “die-hard fans” queuing outside Apple stores.
View image on Twitter
Tech in Asia ✔@techinasia
There are already long queues for tomorrow’s iPhone X launch https://www.techinasia.com/long-queues-for-iphone-x-launch …
2:37 PM - Nov 2, 2017
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Many regularly express their profound dislike of the practice. One commentator called the iPhone 6 queues a “giant cocktail of wrongness and irrationality”. Samsung even ran a series of commercials to mock the infamous queues.
At the same time, marketing experts celebrate Apple for its seemingly magical ability to electrify the masses and mobilise thousands of people to line up for days. It has become a custom among admirers and criticsalike to compare the relationship between Apple and its loyal customers with religions and mystical cults. What we are told is a story of powerful symbols and an idolised brand on one side, meeting irrational lemmings on the other.
Yet, there is also evidence suggesting that iPhone queues may be the result of something much more banal than the “mythical power of symbols, icons and stories”. And what if iPhone queuers weren’t irrational hedonists, but were acting more like calculating entrepreneurs?
Jumping on the bandwagon
Many people in queues are actually earning money rather than spending it. People with prime spots can sell them for hefty amounts of money. Over the years, a whole business of line sitters has emerged. Affluent buyers can use platforms such as Airtasker to find people who are willing to queue for them, reportedly at weekly rates of US$3,400 in top locations like New York.
Even charities have discovered iPhone queues as a way to raise funds, expecting to sell their places at the head of the queue for four-figure sums.
Cancer Research fundraisers in the iPhone 5 launch queue. Sean Dempsey/PA Archive/PA Images
What’s more, one of the reasons for the high prices paid for good spots is that iPhone buyers compete with companies and entrepreneurs seeking to benefit from the presence of media reporters covering these launches.
The first person to queue for the recent iPhone 8 and X – a few weeks ago in Sydney – was a 20-year old YouTuber planning to document the event. Certain to receive worldwide media attention as the first “fanatic” in the queue, he knew that this would be a unique opportunity to enjoy free publicity and grow his subscriber base. For publicity seekers like him, being the first to own the iPhone is clearly secondary.
The young YouTuber is far from alone. The observations of a journalistwho participated in an iPhone queue in 2013, give an impression of the scale of this phenomenon:
The number of other brands couriering free food was unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Food from Greggs, Dominos, Nandos, Subway was shipped in. A drinks company had sent round two crates of their product. All in the hope that a press photographer would snap the queuers consuming their produce.
He went on to document how the 17-year-old at the front of the line was paid a three-figure sum to wear a bright shirt advertising an app. Those second and third in line ran a live blog for the Daily Mirror website and got paid for it.
More than meets the ‘i’
Clearly, people like the ones described above have little in common with the picture of self-indulgent and irrational consumers that the media have instilled in us over the years. Quite the opposite. It appears that a substantial amount of people line up precisely because of the huge media attention that iPhone queues receive.
Instead of wondering about the mental state of the few thousand people queuing for an iPhone, we might instead ask why millions of people around the world have an apparent desire to engage in this annual ritual of passionate iPhone queue-bashing. If there is something we can learn from the phenomenon of iPhone queues at all, then it is that the critics far outnumber the blind followers of fashion.
The irony of course is that critics are equally blind to the varied motivations among iPhone queuers, perpetuating the misleading – but nevertheless common – perception that we are surrounded by people hopelessly obsessed with owning the latest and greatest product. All the while, the onus of responsibility for the environmental and societal implications of rapidly rising levels of waste, is entirely placed on consumers.
Of course, the biggest beneficiary of all of this: Apple inc.
https://theconversation.com/the-real-story-behind-the-huge-crowds-gathered-at-iphone-launches-86808
Apple’s special edition iPhone X release – like the new iPhones before it – brings thousands of people lining up in front of Apple stores around the globe. It raises the seemingly obvious question: what sane person would queue overnight for an over-priced, at best incrementally-changed gadget?
But what sounds like a question for psychologists, may actually be better addressed as a matter of the way media and markets work.
You’d be forgiven for expecting this article to be a rant about the blatant consumerism of the people that stand in line – many overnight – to get the latest iPhone. Or against the world’s obsession with smartphones more generally. After ten years of extensive media coverage of each launch, we’ve all grown used to the clichéd pictures of “die-hard fans” queuing outside Apple stores.
View image on Twitter
Tech in Asia ✔@techinasiaThere are already long queues for tomorrow’s iPhone X launch https://www.techinasia.com/long-queues-for-iphone-x-launch …
2:37 PM - Nov 2, 2017
Twitter Ads info and privacy
Many regularly express their profound dislike of the practice. One commentator called the iPhone 6 queues a “giant cocktail of wrongness and irrationality”. Samsung even ran a series of commercials to mock the infamous queues.
At the same time, marketing experts celebrate Apple for its seemingly magical ability to electrify the masses and mobilise thousands of people to line up for days. It has become a custom among admirers and criticsalike to compare the relationship between Apple and its loyal customers with religions and mystical cults. What we are told is a story of powerful symbols and an idolised brand on one side, meeting irrational lemmings on the other.
Yet, there is also evidence suggesting that iPhone queues may be the result of something much more banal than the “mythical power of symbols, icons and stories”. And what if iPhone queuers weren’t irrational hedonists, but were acting more like calculating entrepreneurs?
Jumping on the bandwagon
Many people in queues are actually earning money rather than spending it. People with prime spots can sell them for hefty amounts of money. Over the years, a whole business of line sitters has emerged. Affluent buyers can use platforms such as Airtasker to find people who are willing to queue for them, reportedly at weekly rates of US$3,400 in top locations like New York.
Even charities have discovered iPhone queues as a way to raise funds, expecting to sell their places at the head of the queue for four-figure sums.
Cancer Research fundraisers in the iPhone 5 launch queue. Sean Dempsey/PA Archive/PA Images
What’s more, one of the reasons for the high prices paid for good spots is that iPhone buyers compete with companies and entrepreneurs seeking to benefit from the presence of media reporters covering these launches.
The first person to queue for the recent iPhone 8 and X – a few weeks ago in Sydney – was a 20-year old YouTuber planning to document the event. Certain to receive worldwide media attention as the first “fanatic” in the queue, he knew that this would be a unique opportunity to enjoy free publicity and grow his subscriber base. For publicity seekers like him, being the first to own the iPhone is clearly secondary.
The young YouTuber is far from alone. The observations of a journalistwho participated in an iPhone queue in 2013, give an impression of the scale of this phenomenon:
The number of other brands couriering free food was unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Food from Greggs, Dominos, Nandos, Subway was shipped in. A drinks company had sent round two crates of their product. All in the hope that a press photographer would snap the queuers consuming their produce.
He went on to document how the 17-year-old at the front of the line was paid a three-figure sum to wear a bright shirt advertising an app. Those second and third in line ran a live blog for the Daily Mirror website and got paid for it.
More than meets the ‘i’
Clearly, people like the ones described above have little in common with the picture of self-indulgent and irrational consumers that the media have instilled in us over the years. Quite the opposite. It appears that a substantial amount of people line up precisely because of the huge media attention that iPhone queues receive.
Instead of wondering about the mental state of the few thousand people queuing for an iPhone, we might instead ask why millions of people around the world have an apparent desire to engage in this annual ritual of passionate iPhone queue-bashing. If there is something we can learn from the phenomenon of iPhone queues at all, then it is that the critics far outnumber the blind followers of fashion.
The irony of course is that critics are equally blind to the varied motivations among iPhone queuers, perpetuating the misleading – but nevertheless common – perception that we are surrounded by people hopelessly obsessed with owning the latest and greatest product. All the while, the onus of responsibility for the environmental and societal implications of rapidly rising levels of waste, is entirely placed on consumers.
Of course, the biggest beneficiary of all of this: Apple inc.
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