Adriano

[Cahill's Metatarsal]

Extremely debatable, so debate...

Out of the few recognised strikers he has bought...

McFadden? Ruined him.
Beattie? Ruined him.
AJ? Ruined him.
Yakubu? Lets see....
Saha? Injured, IMO rushed back too soon.

Away from Everton...

McFadden? Flourished
Beattie? Flourished
AJ? Flourished

I can see your point, the way we've never signed a forward who's done the business for a long time is something that's crossed my mind, especially considering the defenders we've had who've done excellent in the long term for us, but I don't think it's fair to say the forwards have flourished since they left.

McFadden & Beattie are both playing against players of a far lower standard than they were at us & Johnson has started excellently for Fulham but did for us too before he faded so I think the jury is still out at all 3

 

[TsarDiniyar]

McFadden has been about the same at Birmingham as he was in the premiership. He should be scoring 30 goals a season considering its a drop down in skill levels.

Beattie has been injured more than not at Sheffield. He's scored a fair bit down there but thats to be expected at a lower level.

AJ was always good but wanted to leave to live down south so it was hardly Moyes fault.

Yakubu has been class under Moyes' tutelage.

Vaughan and Anichebe, both players of fairly limited talents have outshone themselves when called upon.

No doubt they'll get sold to a championship side, score ten goals in one season and you'll rate them as flourished.

AJ worked hard but didnt score enough, which is what a striker costing £8.6m at the time is supposed to be doing.

Beattie is averaging more than 1 in 2 at sheffield united. 1 in 3 ish at Southampton, 1 in 6 at Everton.

Yakubu has scored everywhere he has gone and I dont think it has nothing to do with Moyes.

Mcfadden has already nearlly scored more than he did at everton. Granted the majority of his appearances were 5 minutes long, but that to me isn't getting the most out of a player when he practically scored everytime he started.

I think the fact Moyes was a defender in his playing days reflects massively in his record with attacknig players.

 

[TsarDiniyar]

Johnson scored 20 goals in the season he was in the Premier League for Palace as did Beattie at saints

 

[ToxtethBlue]

Both the players mentioned weren't good enough for Everton. It had nothing to do with tactics or how they where used, they simply weren't good enough.

 

[Basil Fawlty]

AJ worked hard but didnt score enough, which is what a striker costing £8.6m at the time is supposed to be doing.

Beattie is averaging more than 1 in 2 at sheffield united. 1 in 3 ish at Southampton, 1 in 6 at Everton.

Yakubu has scored everywhere he has gone and I dont think it has nothing to do with Moyes.

Mcfadden has already nearlly scored more than he did at everton. Granted the majority of his appearances were 5 minutes long, but that to me isn't getting the most out of a player when he practically scored everytime he started.

I think the fact Moyes was a defender in his playing days reflects massively in his record with attacknig players.

I agree with that

 

[neonleon]

Johnson scored 20 goals in the season he was in the Premier League for Palace as did Beattie at saints

ergo moyes ruins forwards?

Not many players manage to recapture form that sees them score 20 goals in a season.

Beattie isn't back in the england squad now that he is scoring - he's too slow and hasn't enough skill.

AJ was the penalty taker at crystal palace that season. When he was at everton he shared that duty - also he didnt get the penalties at everton.

By then the media campaign had seen to that.

An isolated statistic does not a theory make.

 

[neonleon]

AJ worked hard but didnt score enough, which is what a striker costing £8.6m at the time is supposed to be doing.

Beattie is averaging more than 1 in 2 at sheffield united. 1 in 3 ish at Southampton, 1 in 6 at Everton.

Yakubu has scored everywhere he has gone and I dont think it has nothing to do with Moyes.

Mcfadden has already nearlly scored more than he did at everton. Granted the majority of his appearances were 5 minutes long, but that to me isn't getting the most out of a player when he practically scored everytime he started.

I think the fact Moyes was a defender in his playing days reflects massively in his record with attacknig players.

So it proves that Beattie found it tough at the top and finds it easier the lower down the league or standings he plays.

All these players suffered from injuries, suspensions and numerous substitutes - also Moyes plays players out of position when the squad demands it.

He's trying to win games not oil the stats of strikers. Maybe Southampton, crystal palace and Southampton dont have much competition for places, they keep what they've got on the pitch.

I think its doubtful anyone can look at black and white stats and comment on a manager wisely - apart from the league position.