Adam Lallana

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The guy is good. Maybe really good.

Most of the media indicates that he is likely to be on his way to Anfield at some point before the World Cup starts for somewhere in the region of £20M.

Interestingly, despite being from the south of England and having played for only Southampton and Bournemouth (academy and on loan) he supported Everton as a youngster like his father.

(http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/lallana-looks-to-toffees-visit-611785.aspx)

Unless Bill has the trick of a lifetime up his sleeve, most of us would believe that we will only be able to sign one player with this kind of price tag, and this would look to be an attempt at bringing Lukaku in before we chase anyone else.

Would it be worth going after Lallana? Perhaps instead of Lukaku or if that fails? He isn't a striker but maybe Bobby can work his magic and get another striker on loan or cheap.

Personally, I'd love to have him but not necessarily at the expense of a top striker and I am not so sure he would come.

 

[Goat]

Nailed on for the vermin, as you say, hes not a striker, we really need a striker, I would prefer 1 we owned, but I honestly think hes vermin bound regardless, shame, hes a cracking player, hopefully he will do a Harry Kewell.

 

[bluestevon]

The guy is good. Maybe really good.

Most of the media indicates that he is likely to be on his way to Anfield at some point before the World Cup starts for somewhere in the region of £20M.

Interestingly, despite being from the south of England and having played for only Southampton and Bournemouth (academy and on loan) he supported Everton as a youngster like his father.

(http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/lallana-looks-to-toffees-visit-611785.aspx)

Unless Bill has the trick of a lifetime up his sleeve, most of us would believe that we will only be able to sign one player with this kind of price tag, and this would look to be an attempt at bringing Lukaku in before we chase anyone else.

Would it be worth going after Lallana? Perhaps instead of Lukaku or if that fails? He isn't a striker but maybe Bobby can work his magic and get another striker on loan or cheap.

Personally, I'd love to have him but not necessarily at the expense of a top striker and I am not so sure he would come.

He is completely overrated, a nice player but not 20m or 25m rated depending on the source, if he was Spanish his value would be around 10-12m tops mate, 26 years old, only 2 top flight years played and no European experience, and statistically at least only one very good season and one distinctly average one under his belt

 

[tommye]

http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/t...to-buy-adam-lallana-this-summer-please.64836/

 

[bluestevon]

Nailed on for the vermin, as you say, hes not a striker, we really need a striker, I would prefer 1 we owned, but I honestly think hes vermin bound regardless, shame, hes a cracking player, hopefully he will do a Harry Kewell.

Honestly are you that bothered if they sign him though mate, the way they play won't suit him at all, and who they gonna drop to play him anyways as more often than not its sturridge on the right, sterling on the left and coutinho dropped off, think its a case of Brenda being a bit clueless about players and how they will fit into any strategy he has

 

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http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/t...to-buy-adam-lallana-this-summer-please.64836/

Blimey! I searched for that but in the Everton forum only, I didn't know someone had posted it in there.

Fair cop, officer.

 

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Honestly are you that bothered if they sign him though mate, the way they play won't suit him at all, and who they gonna drop to play him anyways as more often than not its sturridge on the right, sterling on the left and coutinho dropped off, think its a case of Brenda being a bit clueless about players and how they will fit into any strategy he has

I agree, and I don't think he will drop off and play deep. I do think he'd be better suited over here rather than sat on their bench.

 

[Goat]

Honestly are you that bothered if they sign him though mate, the way they play won't suit him at all, and who they gonna drop to play him anyways as more often than not its sturridge on the right, sterling on the left and coutinho dropped off, think its a case of Brenda being a bit clueless about players and how they will fit into any strategy he has

Well your assuming Sewerz remains.

 

[bluestevon]

Well your assuming Sewerz remains.

I'm torn on what that rat will do mate, 50/50, but if he does go i can see them being in a utter shambolic mess next year, Brenda threw away his 'philosophy' this season completely, without Suarez the tactics they use now simply won't work half as effectively, and trying to retrograde back to a passing team will mean they have to relearn the entire bedding it in process all over again and basically finishes Gerrard at the team as he isn't capable of playing it - and lets face it Rodgers hasn't got the balls to drop him

If he stays then players like Lallana are just gonna be half as effective

Early guess is that the rs could very well be the Man united car crash of next season

atm their attack is all about pace and running like energizer bunnies, lallana isn't that type of player and its gonna be square peg round hole time, he would have been way better off at United imo

 

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Early guess is that the rs could very well be the Man united car crash of next season

Hopefully, but I think we could be the car crash of next season if we don't keep the great feel around the place up with some great business. Lallana would be great business for Everton (at the right price obviously), an England international midfielder coming into the prime of his career. I cannot think of the last time we signed somebody who fit that description. Perhaps Barmby? It would make my summer.

 

[bluestevon]

I agree, and I don't think he will drop off and play deep. I do think he'd be better suited over here rather than sat on their bench.

Honestly think of the top 7 teams the rs are the worst fit for him to be able to play at his best and it has nothing to do with hating them either, just can't see how he fits into the side

 

[bluestevon]

Hopefully, but I think we could be the car crash of next season if we don't keep the great feel around the place up with some great business. Lallana would be great business for Everton (at the right price obviously), an England international midfielder coming into the prime of his career. I cannot think of the last time we signed somebody who fit that description. Perhaps Barmby? It would make my summer.

The money it would take to buy Lallana mate would depress me as we could improve the squad far more with 20m than adding him, the only thing that could derail us next season is not replacing Lukaku with someone who can slot 13-15+ and cause the opponent a bit of panic

Just as a moment of history though as you mentioned Barmby, and around the same time we actually signed 2 far better players than him who had more impact for the team in speed for i think 3.5m and Kanchelskis for 5m, i think off memory Barmby cost 6m or a bit less. think the same here is the case, the money could be spent better on superior players than Lallana or on two who could individually have as much impact

Just as a note though, i actually do rate lallana, i just think he has been overrated as he is a technically good English footballer like, he isn't anything special and certainly not worth 20-25m mate

Last bit, i really don't care about the English national team and if we signed someone who played for it, id take a croat or serb or portugeues or costa rican any day of the week if they were as good and half the price mate

 

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The money it would take to buy Lallana mate would depress me as we could improve the squad far more with 20m than adding him, the only thing that could derail us next season is not replacing Lukaku with someone who can slot 13-15+ and cause the opponent a bit of panic

Just as a moment of history though as you mentioned Barmby, and around the same time we actually signed 2 far better players than him who had more impact for the team in speed for i think 3.5m and Kanchelskis for 5m, i think off memory Barmby cost 6m or a bit less. think the same here is the case, the money could be spent better on superior players than Lallana or on two who could individually have as much impact

Just as a note though, i actually do rate lallana, i just think he has been overrated as he is a technically good English footballer like, he isn't anything special and certainly not worth 20-25m mate

Last bit, i really don't care about the English national team and if we signed someone who played for it, id take a croat or serb or portugeues or costa rican any day of the week if they were as good and half the price mate

In some ways I think you're right. I also don't care a jot about the national team (though I am pleased to see Jags and Bainesy in it and worried that it will act like a shop window to Ross Barkley). I do think that having another English lad - or anyone with English as their first language tbh - at the core of the team can only be positive (I won't be voting UKIP, for the record), but a lad who has played at international level and has captained another good and well achieving Premier League team would be a bonus.

At the moment we are still used to this idea that we can do amazing things with a sum of money like £20M, and I hope we're not being deceived. Ultimately however, we know that David Moyes was capable of doing brilliant things with that sort of cash. Roberto hasn't proven himself yet, purely because he hasn't been here long enough (and I am mostly impressed with what we've seen). Maybe we will have to spend bigger in future and get a lesser value for money - and this PL TV deal is going to do that in the end anyway.

I reckon if he was from Peru he would be closer to £5M, but I can't think of a Peruvian player similar to Adam Lallana - hopefully Bobby can find one! He has a record finding hot Honduran talent.

 

[bluestevon]

In some ways I think you're right. I also don't care a jot about the national team (though I am pleased to see Jags and Bainesy in it and worried that it will act like a shop window to Ross Barkley). I do think that having another English lad - or anyone with English as their first language tbh - at the core of the team can only be positive (I won't be voting UKIP, for the record), but a lad who has played at international level and has captained another good and well achieving Premier League team would be a bonus.

At the moment we are still used to this idea that we can do amazing things with a sum of money like £20M, and I hope we're not being deceived. Ultimately however, we know that David Moyes was capable of doing brilliant things with that sort of cash. Roberto hasn't proven himself yet, purely because he hasn't been here long enough (and I am mostly impressed with what we've seen). Maybe we will have to spend bigger in future and get a lesser value for money - and this PL TV deal is going to do that in the end anyway.

I reckon if he was from Peru he would be closer to £5M, but I can't think of a Peruvian player similar to Adam Lallana - hopefully Bobby can find one! He has a record finding hot Honduran talent.

I'm cautiously optimistic about Martinez if and its a big if, we have a decent 20-30m wedge to spend, honestly it should be closer to 30 at the very least, but well we know what should happen and what does are two very different things with the owners we have.

I'd actually be more nervous if it was Moyes with say 25-30m to spend actually as he did have a habit of buying some right turkeys when he did actually have some wedge to spend, he was much much better when he had a very limited amount strangely

Moyes one year he had a net spend of 24+ million on

Kroldrup - 5m
Arteta - 2m
Neville 3.5m
Valente -1.5m
Van der meyde - 2m
Stubbs - free
Johnson 8.6m
Lescott -5m

Kind of a mixed bag of some very good Arteta and Lescott (7m well spent), some average - Stubbs, Neville (3.5m so so spent), and some very very bad, Kroldrup, Van der Meyde, Valente (8.5m badly wasted), and one who looked like a mistake until we we somehow made a profit on - Johnson (8.6m recouped but wasted effectively short term)

 

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I'm cautiously optimistic about Martinez if and its a big if, we have a decent 20-30m wedge to spend, honestly it should be closer to 30 at the very least, but well we know what should happen and what does are two very different things with the owners we have.

I'd actually be more nervous if it was Moyes with say 25-30m to spend actually as he did have a habit of buying some right turkeys when he did actually have some wedge to spend, he was much much better when he had a very limited amount strangely

Moyes one year he had a net spend of 24+ million on

Kroldrup - 5m
Arteta - 2m
Neville 3.5m
Valente -1.5m
Van der meyde - 2m
Stubbs - free
Johnson 8.6m
Lescott -5m

Kind of a mixed bag of some very good Arteta and Lescott (7m well spent), some average - Stubbs, Neville (3.5m so so spent), and some very very bad, Kroldrup, Van der Meyde, Valente (8.5m badly wasted), and one who looked like a mistake until we we somehow made a profit on - Johnson (8.6m recouped but wasted effectively short term)

I loved AJ! I was devo'd when we got to Preston and he hadn't travelled so he could negotiate with Fulham.

True again, but that was ace compared to every manager with similar amounts of money to spend. The Arteta deal was unrealistically good, as was Tim Cahill, Nigel Martyn etc.

Kroldrup was awful, but I don't think Moyes could know that Shandy van der Meyde would spend his time here abusing substances.

I hope to never sign a Neville again but even that was probably right at the time!