A dying-breed-legend spilled over into the dark ages.

[Death]

I was looking at the passion in Duncan Ferguson's celebrating against Bournemouth to cheer me up. Thinking as time goes on and as this dark gap of no silverware goes on and on and on, Getting to the better side towards a half century.

Does the argument that Dunc was a Legend grow? I'm 29 and 95 was... well you know my story if you can do the maths or are my age. Is it Ferguson's fault he was a who he was in the dawn of this dark age.

As the 80s gets further away maybe we should think basing a Legend should not be on goals scored or trophies won. Maybe it should be circumstantial. Maybe it's more complicated than being able to gauge it numerically.

Some of you fully conscious in the 80's Beauts might be merciful enough to grant him cult hero status. But I grant him legendary status.

https://www.thickaccent.com/2017/09...ton-bench-after-niasses-winner-v-bournemouth/

(Not another 'is Ferguson a Legend' thread).

 

[Groucho]

I was looking at the passion in Duncan Ferguson's celebrating against Bournemouth to cheer me up. Thinking as time goes on and as this dark gap of no silverware goes on and on and on, Getting to the better side towards a half century.

Does the argument that Dunc was a Legend grow? I'm 29 and 95 was... well you know my story if you can do the maths or are my age. Is it Ferguson's fault he was a who he was in the dawn of this dark age.

As the 80s gets further away maybe we should think basing a Legend should not be on goals scored or trophies won. Maybe it should be circumstantial. Maybe it's more complicated than being able to gauge it numerically.

Some of you fully conscious in the 80's Beauts might be merciful enough to grant him cult hero status. But I grant him legendary status.

https://www.thickaccent.com/2017/09...ton-bench-after-niasses-winner-v-bournemouth/

(Not another 'is Ferguson a Legend' thread).

Ferguson has an FA Cup winners medal mate.

Tim Cahill and Mick Lyons won nothing but lots consider them so.

 

[hallamblue]

Ferguson only turned up for about 10 games a season. Hugely overrated thug imo, not fit to lace Bobby Latchford's boots.

 

[Death]

Ferguson has an FA Cup winners medal mate.

Tim Cahill and Mick Lyons won nothing but lots consider them so.

I remember mate, I just didn't think it was worth a mention in the context of what I was trying to say.

 

[Groucho]

I remember mate, I just didn't think it was worth a mention in the context of what I was trying to say.

For me any player with a winners medal for Everton is worthy.

If people want to pick and choose then that's simply down to favouritism.

 

[Boss_Blue]

Duncan is a legend.

 

[wilfjacko]

Ferguson only turned up for about 10 games a season. Hugely overrated thug imo, not fit to lace Bobby Latchford's boots.

Bet you wouldn't say that nonsense face to face.

 

[B17BLG]

Too obvious mate

 

[The binman chronicles]

The goals he scored were central to keeping us up after Royle took over. The cup final he only had a cameo at the end, so if you want to call him a legend, it would be for what he did in the league as he did diddly squat in the cup.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

Ferguson is a legend.
His goal against Liverpool in November 94 sparked the most amazing turnaround for the club having looked on its knees.
He got what the Derby meant, He would take the fight (sometimes literally) to the opposition.

We could do with him circa 95 on the pitch right now.

 

[Little Ralphy]

Ferguson only turned up for about 10 games a season. Hugely overrated thug imo, not fit to lace Bobby Latchford's boots.

The games he did turn up for though, were usually the big games and the ones that mattered most to people.

 

[Khalekan]

I was looking at the passion in Duncan Ferguson's celebrating against Bournemouth to cheer me up. Thinking as time goes on and as this dark gap of no silverware goes on and on and on, Getting to the better side towards a half century.

Does the argument that Dunc was a Legend grow?

As the 80s gets further away maybe we should think basing a Legend should not be on goals scored or trophies won. Maybe it should be circumstantial. Maybe it's more complicated than being able to gauge it numerically.

Some of you fully conscious in the 80's Beauts might be merciful enough to grant him cult hero status. But I grant him legendary status.

https://www.thickaccent.com/2017/09...ton-bench-after-niasses-winner-v-bournemouth/

(Not another 'is Ferguson a Legend' thread).

Of course it is not that simple.

Mick Lyons, Andy King, Timmy Cahill....club legends whom never won owt with us nor threatened any goal scoring records.

Big Bob and Dave Hickson....great goalscorers but never won silverware with us.

Legends one and all.

Then there is Romelu Lukaku and Gary Lineker....the two best strikers I have seen at the club.

But neither would count as "legends" in my eyes.

Big Dunc.....a legend for now and for always

 

[dholliday]

I was looking at the passion in Duncan Ferguson's celebrating against Bournemouth to cheer me up. Thinking as time goes on and as this dark gap of no silverware goes on and on and on, Getting to the better side towards a half century.

Does the argument that Dunc was a Legend grow? I'm 29 and 95 was... well you know my story if you can do the maths or are my age. Is it Ferguson's fault he was a who he was in the dawn of this dark age.

As the 80s gets further away maybe we should think basing a Legend should not be on goals scored or trophies won. Maybe it should be circumstantial. Maybe it's more complicated than being able to gauge it numerically.

Some of you fully conscious in the 80's Beauts might be merciful enough to grant him cult hero status. But I grant him legendary status.

https://www.thickaccent.com/2017/09...ton-bench-after-niasses-winner-v-bournemouth/

(Not another 'is Ferguson a Legend' thread).

I'm between the 80's beauts and those who were raised on '95. My first game was the '89 Cup Final, in the years thereafter Cottee, Big Nev and Ratcliffe were my favourites, then I saw really good footballers like Beardsley, Kanchelskis and Limpar. I loved Dunc's hardman status but honestly he didn't register in the upper echelons of my affections during his first stint. Later tho' I admired how he came back for a second stint and put a shift in, he was never a prolific scorer but he was deffo a huge asset. I loved how he made opposition-defenders life hell, many retired players have him down as the striker they least wanted to face (not least Paul Ince, haha).

Now in a coaching capacity we see further confirmation that he embodies our own passion for Everton, it's quite beautiful to behold, the Niasse-goal celebration being the latest example.


But saying all that, legend status is a rare thing for me, reserved for those who not just embody us, but drive our club to become champions, like Southall or Ratcliffe, or going further back Kendall/Harvey/Ball...and of course Dixie Dean.

Dunc isn't a legend in that sense, but he's a timeless embodiment of Everton, more than a cult-hero, more than a fan-favourite. Tim Cahill has a similar status (minus the cup medal), he may be back in a coaching capacity one day too.