1984 - Anyone read it?
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not me, wouldnt mind though tbh. apparently the amount of stuff he predicted (albeit a but later) is on a nostradamus scale.
all the cctv/bugging/ surveilance etc.
do you realise that the state probably has more information gathered about each and every one of us than the stasi's and kgb's of the eastern blocks ever had on their folks. they were aware of it and did things under cover, whereas we go about our lives like we aren't being watched from every parapit and lamp-post. i bet they could stick a pin in a phone book and then trace that persons each and every move over a period of time and produce a set of results that would make your hoop twitch.
all the cctv/bugging/ surveilance etc.
do you realise that the state probably has more information gathered about each and every one of us than the stasi's and kgb's of the eastern blocks ever had on their folks. they were aware of it and did things under cover, whereas we go about our lives like we aren't being watched from every parapit and lamp-post. i bet they could stick a pin in a phone book and then trace that persons each and every move over a period of time and produce a set of results that would make your hoop twitch.
Basil Fawlty
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Read it when I was younger, used to love Orwell, Wells and Dahl when I was a kid. Good book with a lot of political paranoia that has turned out to be warranted
Thought_Police
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I read it. A very powerful and relevant work.
Freedom is slavery. This is truth.
Freedom is slavery. This is truth.
Wouldnt mind reading it like.
He best of predicted that we'd be ace in 1984.
He best of predicted that we'd be ace in 1984.
Read it back in school for GCSE , but personally I prefered 'Animal farm' (not the rude film before any one says it 
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Interesting book, there was some interesting stuff about using war to repress the population, but I cant remember what.:huh:
Interesting book, there was some interesting stuff about using war to repress the population, but I cant remember what.:huh:
ToffeeMark
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no, saw a bit of the film, I think there was some nudity but other than that not really that interesting....
bluebastardo
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Enjoy
http://www.msxnet.org/orwell/print/1984.pdf
http://www.msxnet.org/orwell/print/1984.pdf
1984
George Orwell
1949
Chapter 1
It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston
Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped
quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough
to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him.
The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a
coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It
depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of
about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features.
Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best
of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off
during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate
Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had
a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the
way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face
gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that
the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING
YOU, the caption beneath it ran.
George Orwell
1949
Chapter 1
It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. Winston
Smith, his chin nuzzled into his breast in an effort to escape the vile wind, slipped
quickly through the glass doors of Victory Mansions, though not quickly enough
to prevent a swirl of gritty dust from entering along with him.
The hallway smelt of boiled cabbage and old rag mats. At one end of it a
coloured poster, too large for indoor display, had been tacked to the wall. It
depicted simply an enormous face, more than a metre wide: the face of a man of
about forty-five, with a heavy black moustache and ruggedly handsome features.
Winston made for the stairs. It was no use trying the lift. Even at the best
of times it was seldom working, and at present the electric current was cut off
during daylight hours. It was part of the economy drive in preparation for Hate
Week. The flat was seven flights up, and Winston, who was thirty-nine and had
a varicose ulcer above his right ankle, went slowly, resting several times on the
way. On each landing, opposite the lift-shaft, the poster with the enormous face
gazed from the wall. It was one of those pictures which are so contrived that
the eyes follow you about when you move. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING
YOU, the caption beneath it ran.
This is the opening first few sentences.
The above link is the whole book in pdf should you wish to read it.
The above link is the whole book in pdf should you wish to read it.
ToffeeMark
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sounds uplifiting 
I wonder if Mr Blair is spinning in his grave now with the knowledge that his masterwork is probably best remembered 50 years on for coining a phrase which became the name of a banal television programme. 
trebilcock66
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One of my favourite books.
Forget it as a work of prediction (Arthur C Clarke does that better than most) and read it instead as a brilliantly informed full-on assault on the totalitarian state. Where to start? The book has given us many expressions that have independantly entered everyday use: Big Brother, Newspeak, Doublethink, Ministry of Truth.
Orwell's brilliance lay in his understanding of the human obsession with power and what that obsession does to those in authority and those (like us...) who have no voice. We are all Winston Smith really...
There's even a love story in it (with nudity and rumpypumpy for those who need it in a book) but that too is seen through the eyes of the state. What a story.
I can think of two films (McBain, any advance on that?) one very old with Peter Cushing in the lead role. The other had John Hurt as Smith and Richard Burton as the politician - it was a faithful and rivetting version of the book. But read it first - you'll not forget it.
Forget it as a work of prediction (Arthur C Clarke does that better than most) and read it instead as a brilliantly informed full-on assault on the totalitarian state. Where to start? The book has given us many expressions that have independantly entered everyday use: Big Brother, Newspeak, Doublethink, Ministry of Truth.
Orwell's brilliance lay in his understanding of the human obsession with power and what that obsession does to those in authority and those (like us...) who have no voice. We are all Winston Smith really...
There's even a love story in it (with nudity and rumpypumpy for those who need it in a book) but that too is seen through the eyes of the state. What a story.
I can think of two films (McBain, any advance on that?) one very old with Peter Cushing in the lead role. The other had John Hurt as Smith and Richard Burton as the politician - it was a faithful and rivetting version of the book. But read it first - you'll not forget it.
SuitsBlueX2
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'Equilibrium' was a note for note rip off also. It should be realised that Orwell was interested in the soviet revolutions, consider the communist aspects of 'animal farm' and then consider the Bolsheviks and the death brigades some hundred years earlier. (Specifically the destruction of the upper middle class literati) And if you are interested, look up the notion of "The little Father" & the Czar.
bluebastardo
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I have a few books at home, and a few thousand in boxes somewhere.
Not sure whether I have the original 1984 though.
Not sure whether I have the original 1984 though.
I have a few books at home, and a few thousand in boxes somewhere.
Not sure whether I have the original 1984 though.
Nice collection, but have you a copy of Flyfishing by J.R Hartley........its rather old you know
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