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Good shout.

Not sure I’d class him as a cast off. He was a young up and coming player who wanted game time. I think most people understood we’d get a few seasons from him before he moved to a Champions League club.

Cast offs from the Champions League clubs rarely work out for us.

Moving to New Zealand you say? Now why didn't I think of that?! Joking aside it has been difficult to get support. I just do what I can to support her day by day. Lately I have suggested to her we try to get treatment for the pain or try to identify what the root cause of it is. Hoping that if...

I think my wife may be suffering with this but we aren't really sure. Her GP believes she may have fibromyalgia which amongst other things seems to cause fatigue, pain and anxiety. My wife is also unable to work full time and currently does 3 days a week. Does your daughter manage to sleep...

It a lovely thought but even if the RS implode I can’t see Arsenal picking up enough points to beat them.

City have been told not to win it?

Strangely I often find that the casual ones can be worse when it comes to gloating.

That was some save, especially with the deflection.

Gambling?

Group D is the toughest I reckon.

I wonder if Forest fans would object to us getting a further points deduction if they benefit from it.

It certainly feels like Mike Walker territory but we've been saying that since FSW. I don't think any manager could consistently get results out of this group of players.

I agree we are unlikely to get any points back. I think we’ve lost to some good sides and today maybe the Christmas fixture congestion caught up with us.

…but even with the 10 point deduction we still aren’t in the relegation zone. Not saying we are definitely safe but I don’t make us favourites to go down.

This is my fear. Would anyone have expected us to reach 47 points this season? That's what we have to achieve to stay up. Unless we are given some of our points back. The injustice of it all makes me sick. If we do go down it will have taken a corrupt points deduction to finally see us off.

Everyone involved is desperate to see us relegated! Absolutely gutted! Dyche and the players have worked so hard and this is completely unjust!

I think you're right. The plan was for Moshiri to be the front man and Usmanov to find creative ways to give us money. Obviously that went sideways.

Leeds is another one that springs to mind. Champions League Semi final around 2001 (???) and then relegated in 2004 after a few poor seasons and changing managers too many times.

It's bleak at the moment but I agree there is certainly hope. Dyche really needs to get them drilled and get the players as fit as possible. If we have those 2 things there's always that chance that a couple of players can hit form and give the others a boost.