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https://www.mancity.com/news/club/club-statement-rule-x-arbitral-tribunal-award-63863904 https://www.premierleague.com/news/4144828 City did challenge APT and the tribunal found that APT was necessary and lawful apart from only a small part of the rules. Their only succes were these - The...

I think you will find that you have lost today. once the PR nonsense has been cut through, you have won only a very narrow part of the case relating to directors loans.

Looks to me that City have lost large parts of their case. There will be implications for other clubs who have interest free loans which means they may find themselves in PSR trouble when they were not expecting it. Hardly a massive win City, the opposit I think.

That's the maddest thing I have read

I agree 100%.

Rip. Moved to Southport where he passed away. Very sad.

I think its a legal strategy to delay the 115 charges case. It's timed just before that hearing, and they know that there argument can be tested in the courts because there claim is that the members club agreement of rules is in breach of statute anti competition law. I don't think they care a...

I predict City will lose the arbitration because its a members club that they originally signed up for. They will then issue a civil case citing that the rules of the league breaches Competition Law, which will given them recourse to the civil case. That may take 1-2 years before it is...

Thanks. What i found difficult fathom was the formula used for calculating the depreciation. If their is a set accounting formula that is universally accepted by the HMRC then fine. However if their isn't, then it seems to me numbers can be made up out of thin air in order to manipulate the...

so is that depreciation of the stadium value? That's fishy, how do you calculate that??

Who do we sell BM to? What "others assets" do we liquidate? The players?

Yes, and forest therefore gained a sporting advantage because of it.

The proposed rules are to ensure the EPL fall into line with the European model, which makes sense given English clubs play in Europe. However the European model is even more prohibitive than it is currently I think.

I think he did more than that. Didn't he say in evidence that we needed to buy a midfielder? If he did, he has blown a coach and horses through our mitigation argument that there was no sporting advantage. How can you say there was no sporting advantage but we needed to buy players? I think i...

Hi, re Forest I have seen nothing that says how, why or how much they are in breach. Is it in the public domain? Thanks

Definitely

It's just shows the potential of the cash income from the stadium. I think our current annual income is around 13-14m for gate receipts? Although I would add that 3k for a corporate ticket is very cheap compared to the rest of the league.

You might be right, but if clubs are run more sustainably then that should mean there wont be spiraling wages and transfer fees. Which should mean reduced match tickets etc And yes I live cloud cuckoo land.

According to this they have already been in place for over 18 months now at the European level https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/0274-14da0ce4535d-fa5b130ae9b6-1000--explainer-uefa-s-new-financial-sustainability-regulations/

The new Uefa rules that the league are looking towards, I think are even more restrictive than our current league ones. This is because the 70% ratio to income is not just wages. A club will be restricted to spending 70% of their turnover on wages AND transfer fees and agent payments. If you...