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Twice. Losing the Zenith Data Cup to Palace I bawled my eyes out (I was very young) and losing the 2009 FA Cup final. I think the latter had more to do with having 9 500 ml bottles of Chang by half time though lol

I think Moshiri did bring in people who knew what they were doing. Then ran roughshod over them and made his own crazy decisions and the various DoFs and managers got the boot as scapegoats. When you look into just how dysfunctional it all seemed to be between Moshiri and BK I do feel sympathy...

True. It’s been a shambles for years and that has led to us being unable to take advantage of a billionaire arriving. If Moshiri’s money had been spent wisely when he first arrived then we’d probably have cemented our place in the top 6 or 7 of the league. Club needs a reset and to develop a...

They’ve definitely taken the “we can’t keep changing managers” mantra to heart lol I can’t see any other team going on this sort of run retaining their manager. Probably points to how skint we are that we can’t afford to sack him. As I’ve said before, there are mitigating factors but the...

I can’t see him getting a new contract in the summer now after this run. New owners will be keeping an eye on performances and whether we stay up or go down id say it’ll be adios. I do have sympathy over the points deductions but the results have been atrocious for months. And I get that quite...

Yeah we definitely need a totally different model going forward and I imagine new owners will want their own pick as manager. We aren’t at the top of the food chain so we are going to have to be clever in terms of developing players and selling on whilst improving the team. I think for me...

Yeah I don’t necessarily disagree with that. Just that I can understand the viewpoint that if he keeps us up some will want to give him a chance to see if he can improve the style of play. I don’t see much evidence that he would. I do think we need a settled environment in terms of the...

I think it’s most likely a combination of being frustrated with the way the club handled things initially, fear of an independent regulator and incompetence which has led us here. And it’s a disgrace.

I think if he keeps us up and the ownership question is settled and there is a clear pathway to recruit players and move forward then it’s probably a good time to move on. I’m just not convinced we’ll be in that position come the summer. There is also the argument that he should be given a...

It’s absolutely farcical. The PL has turned the whole league into a circus. Those at the helm have undermined the credibility of the competition and brought it into disrepute. There should be serious questions asked at Government level over the suitability of those at the top of the game to...

Well who knows how they’d arrive at a deduction? Could be anywhere from 1 to 28 lol If they scrap the rules at season end it would be absolutely ludicrous to deduct points from us ahead of next season. Which means it’s deffo happening.

It’s totally mad not to look at it in its totality instead of dragging it out. Although from my admittedly vague understanding, it wouldn’t be a points deduction this season? Potentially starting next season on minus points?

Yes so potentially more points for this breach over the stadium costs issue but won’t apply this season if so? According to bbc anyway.

Blow me, what a farce as usual.

I’ve said before we’d have been fine this season if we had Richarlison and Gordon even with the points deduction. They are far better than what we have currently. We’d be fine now without points deductions. Deffo think Dyche would have been given the boot in previous years for this run but...

He’s Hank Marvin I hear

Can’t see it.

It’s dire for sure. You just know for sure when we have players breaking there’s going to be a misplaced pass or McNeill will get it and stop, turn around 360 degrees on his left foot and then pass it 45 yards backwards.

Could we say it’s a combination of both?

Yeah I saw a few times last night in the second half when we counter attacked, a good pass would have set someone away. Although having slugs up top also causes and issue lol