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Feels like today is the day when momentum really shifts. We’ve got away with almost 4 months of opposition results going our way while we’ve failed to take advantage but now it’ll catch up with us. Can’t see how we’ll stay up now, we’re not tight at the back, can’t score and those around us...

Well Martinez never managed it and neither did Bielsa.

Bloody hell could you imagine this thread / Dyche thread if Everton lost after being 3-0 up at half time.

It would be very Everton to get relegated in the season that we’ve not been the worst team in the league. Incredible that we’ve gone 14 is it games without a win and are still out the relegation zone and without points deduction would probably be safe. The bottom 4 / 5 are shocking.

We’ve lost Siggy, James, Richy and Gordon. Could we say anyone we’ve signed would come close to any one of those let alone all four. Oh and Digne crossing ability. No wonder our attacking seems weak now.

The amazing thing is, despite how bad they are, they’re still not as bad as Derby in 07/08.

Knowing our luck, they’ll be well down by the time we play them and with no pressure on them, suddenly turn into Athletico United. Just hope actually we’re safe anyway by that point and can enjoy last home game of the season without pressure.

I’m not sure what style of football people expect? Barcelona on the Mersey? Moyes was criticised for dull football yet we were constantly best of the rest. Big Sam was hated but has given us our best finish in what, almost a decade somehow. Dyche has a solid defence but he’s got a squad that...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68456113 The BBC don’t give figures for all the seasons which is annoy but I can’t see why Wolves escape for breaching the single season overspend by such an amount two seasons in a row. Also if Forest get away with their appeal, surely Everton can come...

What I can’t get is how stupid the club has been to break the rules twice, when they reported themselves the first time for a breach, to have done it and it’s not like there is any major singing the last two years you think - wow without them we’d have been screwed. They’ve basically screwed...

If the transfer ban was for perm signings, I.e you can still get loan signings, I’d rather have that than a 10 point deduction. It’s not like we are any good in the transfer market anyway.

You can’t in EFL but can in Prem which is crazy. I assume if we are breached because of the same year in two different periods we could fight it to say it’s already been penalised.

This is crap, we’ll get hit with another 6 points on the second charge. We really needed 6-7 points worst case to get us back much higher up the table awaiting charge 2. This is bare minimum they could give back to try and get MPs off their back.

Well this time next week we could be 14 points clear of the drop and we can close the thread or we could be in the relegation zone, such is the crazy situation we find ourselves in. Think I’ll just save the stress and avoid all talk of football for a week and will come back to see which version...

With this run we are on, could really do with all 10 points back.

If it’s only 2-3 then we’ll get hit with a second penalty as that is the panel saying you broke the rules but we were a bit harsh. We need all 10 back as that says the original decision was wrong and as our second overspend was probably based on the same logic we should then be all clear.

Still on 30 points, could many more have done better than he has done? The squad is poor and we have no strikers but we’ve got the 3rd best defence in the league. I’m not sure the logic for Young, that would be my main question against him today but the bench wasn’t exactly screaming with talent.

Young is too slow, Harrison added the pace we needed from the start but again we need to take chances. Had Doucoure poked into an open net on the back post, then it’d been a whole different game but he spooned it up and Palace go down the other end and score from outside the box. DCL can’t head...

So Sky introduce league table as the last game before their “first points” deduction and then add a side note about oh they might get some back later this week. Feels like they’re assuming/ been tipped off worse is coming and not to expect any points back.

FFs, you know what’ll happen now. Why couldn’t they lead with Everton- only team not to get a penalty.