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How did your stat prove anything about the big teams? Once again: We concede almost three times more often with him in the team. Those teams are not scoring 3 times the amount of goals. And 9 of the goals we've conceded with him in the team came against those teams you mentioned, not 11, he came...

Stats about attacking are going to be less relevant because he is primarily a defender which is why stats about defending are more revealing. And I would say that the complete lack of any decent overlapping from Hibbert is part of the reason we don't score as many with him in the team. Those...

Where did I say he was a poor defender? My point was we defend better as a team without him.

You can blame him for the goals conceded to Wigan at home, Man U at home (Didn't attack the ball), and both goals against Liverpool if you like. It's irrelevant really, the point was about our defending as a team and not as individuals.

You don't worry about Hibbert's defence on the numerous occasions he lets the ball bounce right over his head? Were you not worried when he [Poor language removed] out of a challenge with Voronin against Liverpool and ten seconds later they had a penalty? Is he a better defender than Neville? Maybe, probably. Do...

The difference in the quality of sides played is nowhere near as big as the difference in the amount of goals conceded with him in the team. We concede almost three times more often with him in the team. Those teams are not scoring 3 times the amount of goals.

It is a fact taken from premierleague.com. Are you one of these people that feels the need to have the last word in every discussion? That's very sad.

Yes it is largely down to one man. We defend better without Hibbert than with him, that was my point. Defending is about stopping the other team from scoring, we do that better without Hibbert than with him. This is a fact.

Utter rubbish? Utter facts. How do you explain those stats? The defence is much less assured with him in it.

He had a very good game but he is still nowhere near good enough. He is scared of having the ball at his feet. That should be anathema to the kind of team we want to be. And I think the idea that he is some great defender is a myth. Look at the stats for the league this season: 1334 minutes...

We've scored 6 goals from Arteta's corners this season, and against Chelsea the only time we looked like scoring was from them. I agree that they are generally poor but that is the nature of the beast. You either score or create a chance from a corner or it is poor. You only have to get one...

With Pienaar back in the team and the defence performing to the level it's at, I have no fear of anyone outside the top two. 2-0.

Amount of goals/chances from corners last night: zero. "Better" my [Poor language removed] cock.

The improvement in his level of performance is nothing short of ludicrous. Last night he was Cannavaro-esque. He has to be a contender for Premiership player of the month, I can't think of anyone else playing to the same level he is.