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We’re just fans we have no choice but to just accept it really we can’t influence the club in any meaningful way i actually find it really annoying when people come out with this pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo as if I could make Everton be good by just changing my mindset that’s not quite how it...

I knew we'd get lowballed but thats taking the pee.

Yeah of course thats exactly how it works teams spend months bidding for a player and then sit down with his agent and find out he wants 10 times more they can afford or just has no interest in coming. You keep telling yourself that lad.

Haha thats not how it works it hasn't worked like that for 20 years or more! United will have sounded out his agent about whether he's interested and what he wants and got all that straight before they waste time bidding for him all summer only to find out he doesn't want to go thats what...

What does? They haven't done anything!

I've already addressed all that in many other posts.

I'm not reaching and I don't need to make sense to you i'm just giving my opinion. I've already said I worded the first one badly I don't mean I can't see any benefit I just don't think keeping him for one more year is much better than selling him now thats all and if we did that no doubt the...

I think thats very unlikely and if United were still the best team in for him at that point you'd have to think he either hadn't done very well for us or he just isn't anywhere near as good as people think he will be but if it happened great. Thats not the point I was arguing with so it makes no...

Well i'm just using the same logic as the post i'm replying to! If him leaving this year means we get relegated then surely him leaving next year does aswell? I believe we can replace him adequately but if you don't then whether its this year or next year doesn't make any difference.

So our first year in the new stadium sees us relegated? Yes that would be so much better wouldn't it.

Ok its badly worded its not that I don't see ANY benefit to keeping him I just don't see that as such a big issue like some people do. If he was leaving in a year anyway then it wouldn't change anything would it we'd just have the exact same issue next year instead of this year so it doesn't...

I don't really understand the desire to keep him for one more year because I don't see what difference it makes doing that. I could get it with Stones and Lukaku when it was saying give us one more year and you might change your mind and stay but I don't see the benefit in just getting one more...

Nothing is necessarily a great move is it it’s all decided in hindsight. It’s a step forward from here that’s undeniable and if he’s good enough to do better in future then he will it’s not like this is his only chance if he goes there and they’re crap but he’s good he can move again.

But that’s up to him that’s the point! Everton aren’t making that decision for him they’re just deciding how much money will make them sell and if united are the only ones paying it’s up to branthwaite if he wants to go. I can see why he would myself.

But none of that is relevant to want I’m saying which is they’re a big step up from us! If Real Madrid and city and all them were in for him and he chose united then I’d say that’s a bit of a strange choice but the reports are that united are the biggest club in for him so it wouldn’t be weird...

Well if that’s the decision he wants to make he can make it can’t he. Fact is if he was playing for united this season he’d have played in the champions league and won a trophy and he probably wouldn’t get that in his whole career here it’s a massive step forward and trying to say it’s not is...

I think sniping at united is a bit rich it’s a massive step up from us in reality.

I expected both both because of the finances and because when good teams come calling players will kick up a fuss and we’re not in a position to fight that. I think it’s been very clearly signposted in the press and even by the club themselves that both would go I genuinely can’t understand the...

I honestly thought everyone expected branthwaite and onana. It’s been so obvious that we need money and that good players would be happy to leave that I just thought everyone accepted that was the case. The hundreds of pages about them both leaving suggest that’s right but it seems like as soon...

Yes I agree that is a fairer comparison. I’ve never tried to say we’d be lucky to get 20 mil I’m just saying using maguire as the go to comparison is stupid if anything it’s more likely to make united say well that’s exactly why we’re not paying so much again.