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I did pal. Hence why what I've said rings true.

Sunderland's press in that 2nd half was the real factor. They swamped us. They've done it to every team they've played. We didn't have any pace to get out. Full backs dont help when they had 2-3 players hunting whoever had the ball. They made more tackles, won more duels, covered more distance...

Exactly. Garner's playing out his skin so far this season. But because our recruitment has been poor, he's the one that should be moved around?

I did. That lads a talent. But shown he was a talent under zero pressure given probably more freedom from a fraud of manager losing every week. He's started 2 games for us and been awful. Moyes sees him in training and knowing full well the amount of money we spent on him, refuses to play him...

Tim doesn't have the positional awareness of Garner - we've seen that when Gana and Tim have partnered last season. Rohl hasn't played a full game to say he'll uproot our best midfield player. JOB also hasn't shown at CB he's better than Keane or Tarks. So all youre saying is changing the...

Personally dont think it changes much and the fact more sides are playing direct, long throws, and set pieces, removing more height from the team won't help. Doesn't solve the final 3rd for me and moves our better player

We don't cos theyd be playing already. And RB isnt a big issue compared to the final 3rd.

For one of the worst premier league sides ever under one of the worst managers in the game

Absolutely does my head in with these Garner to RB shouts. Hes been our best midfielder so far this season and him and Gana our best midfield partnership.

Watching the replay again, think the 3 Sunderland players who got back had more pace than him. Still should've put Beto through.

But thats the issue. Both strikers dont fully suit the players around them. Barry isnt going to score many and is more of a false 9.

Thats where the issue is

Cos its not really a centre forward issue

They're level on points with the premier league holders. Was always going to be tough

Probably not full of confidence as even if he scored on that counter he'd have neen dropped next week.

Away point is decent like

Zero pace and different options too.

Depends on the club and the squads. Hes a spurs/chelsea type singing who can afford either not play him and still make money back.

Theres no "good move"

Young lad with potential who got to do what he wanted under a terrible manager at Southampton which then duped a premier league team to overpay for him. Wont see anything from him for another 2 years.