2025/26 David Moyes

[davek]

not just a coward but he never seems to have a plan to win them.

he gets the excuses in before the game, attempts to sit in at the beginning until we concede, then decides to have a go afterwards in an inevitably plucky defeat. it's almost scripted at this point.

why can't he put a tactical plan in place to win one of these games? it's more than just a lack of confidence and courage I think, it's also a lack of creativity and tactical nous.

for all of the weaknesses of his tenure, there's a reason why it's only been Ancelotti that's managed to win there since the 90s. it's because he could put together a tangible plan and way of winning.

He's a disciplinarian and a mood manager. He can inject that into teams, but as you say, I've yet to see any evidence where he can set up a team and change it quickly when it needs quickly changing.

He's just not that much of a thinker about the game. Some managers rely on motivation alone, some managers do motivation + tactical awareness. Moyes is firmly in the former camp and always willl be, He looks to have learned nothing since leaving here.

We have a very handy attacking team now and we deserve so much better than Moyes in control of how they play (or dont play, rather).

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Fixed

It will be Leighton mate...The club had always performed better when it's had ex players in the hot seat.

This is why the Iriola shouts are laughable.

These managers are interlopers that don't understand the club and try and change it's DNA with their nonsense philosophies...Blues snuff them out quick sharp.

Go right back to the formation of the football club and look that all the managers who had the most success and they're all Ex Everton players.

The Catt,Howard,Even to a lesser extent Big Joe.

 

[davek]

Not good enough.

1 Barry should start over Beto. Those silly "beto has more goal" are nonsense. Beto scored some sitters. But Barry movement gave us much more up front.

2 It is astonished to me that he has not design some pattern to let 18/22/10 exchange positions to get away from the makers. Instead just sit and watch the wingers got doubled or tripled.

3 Terrible game management. No plan whatsoever for the last 20mins.

To me the obvious option Dibling has to be a regular sub. Ether a straight right winger sub or move 10 to left & 18 to middle, sub off 22 or drop 22 deeper into CM. Dibling left footed will add goal scoring opportunities from the right.

4 Next two games are must win.

We have a lot of attacking options, but Moyes will always go for the obvious and he'll always err toward senior players.

This season is going to be very frustrating as Moyes underlines how he just cant make the most of what he's been handed.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

He's a disciplinarian and a mood manager. He can inject that into teams, but as you say, I've yet to see any evidence where he can set up a team and change it quickly when it needs quickly changing.

He's just not that much of a thinker about the game. Some managers rely on motivation alone, some managers do motivation + tactical awareness. Moyes is firmly in the former camp and always willl be, He looks to have learned nothing since leaving here.

We have a very handy attacking team now and we deserve so much better than Moyes in control of how they play (or dont play, rather).

FFS

You're hilarious.

 

[Drico]

The big question is now does he learn. We go to City in a month or so. Can he put together a plan that lets us compete from the start? It’s an attacking team now and we can’t win if we’re not playing to that.

He's had 23 visits to Anfield to learn. His risk-averse "try to get out alive" approach won't be changing for City. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

Moyes is a good manager - but fatally flawed. He has his ceiling. Everyone knows that. For some, they are happy enough with that ceiling if it means, say, 7th place and stability. That's fair enough if that's the level of ambition. But for those who crave a little bit of glory and derring-do, Moyes will never be the answer. Ever.

 

[TheBigIguana]

We have a lot of attacking options, but Moyes will always go for the obvious and he'll always err toward senior players.

This season is going to be very frustrating as Moyes underlines how he just cant make the most of what he's been handed.

As much as I can’t stand agreeing with Davek he’s exactly right on what is happening so far. This is a top 6 attack and a bottom 8 defense. The only way to play is aggressively and on the front foot. Even against a team like Liverpool the idea should be to outgun them because that’s what we have a chance to do. There was a 0.1% chance of a clean sheet there. We need to go into every week expecting to need three goals to win. I just don’t see Moyes being able to get to that point as far as his mentality, and therefore the team’s mentality, goes.

 

[davids]

The usual knife to a gunfight at Anfield Moyse

 

[PercyPlant]

Wonder how many people will be clogging up this thread next time we win.

The commentators said (I assume the stat is true) that only 4 teams in the league have picked up more points than us since Moyes took back over, and given we lost our first game he was probably starting at -3 against 6-8 teams, we’ve just matched Liverpool, who are one of the finest teams this league has seen, done that with Keane as a CB, 2 crap full backs and an absolute donkey up front on the first half.

The progress is like nothing we’ve seen since Royle took over Walker.

Grow up you bunch of agenda driven/“I can’t be wrong on the internet” wimps.

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

He's a disciplinarian and a mood manager. He can inject that into teams, but as you say, I've yet to see any evidence where he can set up a team and change it quickly when it needs quickly changing.

He's just not that much of a thinker about the game. Some managers rely on motivation alone, some managers do motivation + tactical awareness. Moyes is firmly in the former camp and always willl be, He looks to have learned nothing since leaving here.

We have a very handy attacking team now and we deserve so much better than Moyes in control of how they play (or dont play, rather).

Managers who rely on motivation alone and discipline have a name - Ted Lasso. And those clubs are only successful on the tele. Looking down the road, we need fresh thinking. We need daring. The intangibles Moyes has brought has put the ship on the right course. Looking ahead, it might be time sooner rather than later for a new captain.

 

[davids]

It will be Leighton mate...The club had always performed better when it's had ex players in the hot seat.

This is why the Iriola shouts are laughable.

These managers are interlopers that don't understand the club and try and change it's DNA with their nonsense philosophies...Blues snuff them out quick sharp.

Go right back to the formation of the football club and look that all the managers who had the most success and they're all Ex Everton players.

The Catt,Howard,Even to a lesser extent Big Joe.

That's why Carsley should be next.

 

[CielosGrises]

Sadly Liverpool are the best team in the league at the moment - we aren't.

Still disappointed.

We have a tendency to improve after the derby, I'll cling on to that fir now.

 

[Drico]

Managers who rely on motivation alone and discipline have a name - Ted Lasso. And those clubs are only successful on the tele. Looking down the road, we need fresh thinking. We need daring. The intangibles Moyes has brought has put the ship on the right course. Looking ahead, it might be time sooner rather than later for a new captain.

I'm happy for him to do his thing for the season. But not beyond next summer.

He has done a very good job - an excellent one, in fact - in steadying the ship. But I was against his return as his ceiling, in the long run, constrains genuine ambition and lessens any chance of success now that we, apparently, have competent custodians.

Go out of the League Cup this week and our start won't look too pretty. 7 points from 5 games and a cup elimination is a very moderate to iffy start to the season. The Wolves game is, therefore, important. Win that and against West Ham and we can be pretty satisfied. But it's a fine line right now between progress and stagnation. We live in interesting times.

 

[James Patrick]

It will be Leighton mate...The club had always performed better when it's had ex players in the hot seat.

This is why the Iriola shouts are laughable.

These managers are interlopers that don't understand the club and try and change it's DNA with their nonsense philosophies...Blues snuff them out quick sharp.

Go right back to the formation of the football club and look that all the managers who had the most success and they're all Ex Everton players.

The Catt,Howard,Even to a lesser extent Big Joe.

But that would probably also apply to most clubs up to early PL years when many players stayed with clubs for lifetime in various roles. Sticking an Evertonian in charge doesn't necessarily equate to success.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

But that would probably also apply to most clubs up to early PL years when many players stayed with clubs for lifetime in various roles. Sticking an Evertonian in charge doesn't necessarily equate to success.

I can only use the evidence infront of me mate.

 

[EGWToffee]

He set them up to allow Liverpool to attack us. Then we're facing an uphill battle.

Not sure how that was "right" or how he was "brilliant" today.

Totally dismissing the fact we were playing the current champions at Anfield who’ve replaced all their dead wood with better quality?

We were set up exactly the same in the first half as the second. Except nothing stuck to Beto and Liverpool pressed us. We then got back into the game and looked the better team toward the end of the first half and majority of the second.

Liverpool will most likely win the league again this year. I’m not sure exactly what you were expecting? We don’t do well there. Today I thought the team showed character after going 2 down.